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Then how is it your grasp of logical discussion is so feeble? You cannot even see a textbook circular logic fallacy, or a textbook slippery slope! you don't have to be wellversed in logical discussion to do well in the major, debating logic isnt like enginnering logic. Plenty of engineering student...

It isn't. That's not what churches do, though. You lose. Maybe your church does that, but mine doesnt and the religious people around me don't, and I'm not even a member of the church. It's more of a problem in the bible south and other places. Not if you have to watch it. That's the impression I'v...

It's ass-backwards because it's such a more satisfying term than simply saying "hypocrisy". Now, how about refuting points raised? Oh wait, you can't. Because you're just a little fucker who said something stupid, not planning on having to justify it. How is respecting other group's ideol...

Hey moron, I don't know how the hell you're supposed to define such things without reference to the emotion elicited in people. there isn't a universal consensus regarding complex matters like this (racial, sexual orientation-wise). If it's enough to generate a response in the"general populace,...

okay fucker, here's the definition for forcing down the throats: excessive tactic to the point of repelling the general populace or people who aren't that involved at the issues at hand. Get it idiot?

timmy: hey mommy, what are those people in leather?
mom: they are gay activists.
lmao.

forcing down their throats would be something like having a big phallic float with sm-clad people acting out in a gay parade. forcing down their throats would also include religious right walking down the streets condemning everyone to hell and preaching the sanctity of marriage. Circular logic fal...

why is it ass-backwards fucker?

forcing down their throats would be something like having a big phallic float with sm-clad people acting out in a gay parade. forcing down their throats would also include religious right walking down the streets condemning everyone to hell and preaching the sanctity of marriage.

my take is that the church in my hometown is there everyday but to me isnt obstrusive as some phallic float. right now I live in north cal which is rather liberal so I wouldnt say it's a "narrow worldview." For fuck's sake I go to uc berkeley and you know how liberal the whole town+school ...

jesus H. christ, did I say that it is okay to persecute gays if the "humping the cross etc" tactic is not used? Sorry if I messed up the sentence because I'm typing fast and english is not my first language. I'm against all kinds of oppression, but people should respect other groups and no...

that permanent church doesnt, as somebody put it, force stuff down people's throats. Yes it does. It's always there, saying 'We are this and you are evil'. Some even have hateful speech on little thingies outside them. dang, where are you from? bible south? The church in my town doesnt do that kind...

that permanent church doesnt, as somebody put it, force stuff down people's throats. If the church does that by humping the cross, playing choir music all day long or condemning every nonbelieve to hell, then I'd be pissed. Who says the permanence of something has to do with the level with which it ...

There's a difference between terrorists and freedom fighters, contrary to what you hear a lot of pseudo-philosophizers saying. Terrorists attack and kill innocent people. Freedom fighters do not. Last time I had this discussion, people asked why we celebrate George Washington even though he was a t...

I'm not religious but the church in my town doesnt knock on everybody's door or hump the cross, idiot.

Sea Skimmer wrote:That 25 billion's really going to hurt our 2.3 trillion dollar budget and 12 trillion dollar deficit.

jesus that's unfathomable. I guess that's why I'm not an econ major.

oh come on, parading with a phallic float is way more than just being open about your sexuality. But not more than tax-deductible places of worship zoned right smack-dab in the middle of residential neighbourhoods. gimme a fucking break, I'd rather have my house next to a church than a big-ass phal...

al-Qaeda was freedom fighter when it attacked Soviet military personnels in Afghanistan. Now it attacks civilian targets so it's a terrorist organization. Big difference there. Except al-Qaeda didn't fight the Soviets and didn't exist during there occupation of Afghanistan. Bin Laden didn't even be...

This just occured to me -- sorry for the double post. In the eyes of the freedom fighter, the purpose is always legitimate. Although your distinction about the targets of terrorists/freedom fighters is certainly important, this follow-up paragraph actually starts to muddy it again. Does al'Qaeda no...

fuck, and I thought college aid and universal health care were more important. Not to start a tangential debate, but college aid has consistently been a disaster for everyone involved, and all economic studies in the last ten years suggest that we're massively over-funding colleges with public mone...

The study used only Polish women for some reason. I wonder how this correlation would work across a larger statistical sample, crossing racial lines. My first thought is that different cultures will have different values on what a woman should look like. In some places, a very round woman is a very...

al-Qaeda was freedom fighter when it attacked Soviet military personnels in Afghanistan.
Now it attacks civilian targets so it's a terrorist organization.
Big difference there.

EDIT: Of course, it should be pointed out the brilliance with which this bill is being presented. It's being labeled as money for our troops salaries so if any Democrats get an idea to vote it down, they can be attacked for "voting against supporting our troops!". :roll: damned if you do,...

fuck, and I thought college aid and universal health care were more important.

I think the problem is that the South Vietnamese always thought America will be there, and didn't take the fight to themselves.

The Rebel Alliance doesn't go into a cafeteria and blows people up, use your head please.