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- 2008-10-27 07:11pm
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
Fair enough, but as I said above, you need to realize that your definition of "interference" assumes that the "correct" state is the natural process and that any deviation from this is "interference", even if the natural process involves interference itself. This is wh...
- 2008-10-25 03:55pm
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
To interfere in the process would be to kill the fetus. For the mother to continue her normal life except to take more sustenance (which she would do because her body would tell her she is hungry or thirsty) would not be interference with the normal process. I take the noise my brain made on readin...
- 2008-10-25 03:50pm
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
The kinds of intelligence humans have in excess are very important, though. They have, for example, the ability to reason out an ethical code. Which is irrelevant when it comes to whether or not we are somehow metaphysically special. It is like a duck claiming to be special and thus superior to oth...
- 2008-10-22 10:06pm
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
Oh, my. I can just see the picket lines "SAVE THE FLU!"General Zod wrote:Hell, microbes respond to stimuli. I suppose that makes the flu intelligent.Darth Wong wrote:It's funny how people set such a low bar for fetal intelligence. Earthworms respond to stimuli as well.
- 2008-10-22 10:02pm
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
I was merely writing from the viewpoint of degree. Humans may not have a different kind of intelligence than the rest of the animals, but they have it in the extreme. But that does not entail specialness. And our degree of intelligence is not all it is cracked up to be. We just have a lot of a very...
- 2008-10-22 02:12am
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
I disagree. Humans are special, at least because of their intelligence. (A point with which you do seem to agree from your subsequent statements) No. Humans are very intelligent. But that intelligence is not in some manner metaphysically different from the intelligence of a dog, cat, lizard, or ind...
- 2008-10-22 12:30am
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
By any of these metrics, A chicken actually has more moral obligations attached to it than a fetus. A chicken can feel pain. Therefore I should not torture it, or allow it to be tortured. A fetus cannot feel pain... hmmm.... A chicken is of extremely low intelligence compared to a full grown human....
- 2008-10-20 03:08am
- Forum: Science, Logic, And Morality
- Topic: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
- Replies: 104
- Views: 7588
Re: Pro-Life and Anti-Regulation
No. Chickens are food animals. Humans have no moral obligation to them at all. Red-Herring. But I will bite because it amuses me. Your anthropocentrist position is not consistent with either itself, or the universe. Here is why. Humans are not special. There is nothing about humans that gives us so...
- 2008-05-02 08:30pm
- Forum: User Fiction
- Topic: Episode I: The real story?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 8870
- 2008-05-02 07:49pm
- Forum: User Fiction
- Topic: Star Wars: Balancing Act
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4210
- 2008-01-31 05:29pm
- Forum: User Fiction
- Topic: The Legend of Admiral Griff (SW AU, 2nd Draft)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2895
- 2008-01-26 05:56pm
- Forum: User Fiction
- Topic: Star Wars: Rise of the Machines (To Chapter 10)
- Replies: 100
- Views: 53998
- 2007-12-10 11:51pm
- Forum: User Fiction
- Topic: Star Wars: Rise of the Machines (To Chapter 10)
- Replies: 100
- Views: 53998