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Tau - Pulse Rifle
Posted: 2006-11-02 12:33pm
by Crix Dorius
Well... Nothing to do at work.
Posted: 2006-11-02 10:21pm
by Shinova
Shwweeeeeeet.
Posted: 2006-11-02 11:15pm
by Alyeska
The stock and pistol grip location is shoddy. To shoulder the weapon you have to hold your hand immediately in front of your shoulder. Triple the distance from pistol grip and stock.
Posted: 2006-11-03 12:16am
by Isolder74
The desing works if its a weapon to be used on a mount onto say a vehicle but not as a personal weapon. It needs a stock.
Posted: 2006-11-03 05:02am
by Crix Dorius
For a weapon without recoil and aiming over a helmet-display ???
Posted: 2006-11-03 05:32am
by NecronLord
The alien life forms who designed the weapon appear to have joints that facilitate holding the hand to the shoulder easily, given that this version of the stock exists, and their weapons are supposedly very ergonomic.
This version of the rifle.
Oddly enough, as part of my half-done Kel'shan sept Tau kill-team, I made this rifle variant for one of them. If I had a sufficiently high-res camera, I'd put it up.
Posted: 2006-11-04 01:50pm
by Sephirius
also, one does not need to shoulder the weapon as all the sight's data is piped into the helmet's HUD.
Posted: 2006-11-05 12:22pm
by Shroom Man 777
I think the Tau don't really hold the gun as if it has a stock. Aside from aiming, a stock's purpose is to deal with recoil, and I think the Tau pulse rifles don't really have recoil. And they've got their helmet aiming doohickeys. So they don't need sticks.
Posted: 2006-11-05 02:34pm
by Alyeska
Crix Dorius wrote:For a weapon without recoil and aiming over a helmet-display ???
Recoil is irrelevant. Even with a weapon without recoil you need a means to control the weapon. Just holding it with your hands is going to provide for movement and sway. Holding it with a stock significantly reduces this movement.
Posted: 2006-11-14 01:54pm
by Crix Dorius
So... 3D Version in work.
Posted: 2006-11-14 02:41pm
by Tasoth
If you have access to DoW:DC and the RNB(I think that's the type of file) extractors, you can pull their pulse rifle out and use it as a better frame a reference. It's cheating, I know, but meh....
Posted: 2006-11-14 02:53pm
by Crix Dorius
I have enough ref-pic`s from Codex Tau and some other artworks.
But interesting idea.
Posted: 2006-11-14 06:33pm
by Inquisitor Ryan
Ello again Crix. Nice work on the drawing mate, looks sweet.
Posted: 2006-11-14 09:25pm
by Elheru Aran
The front circle-with-bar part is actually spherical, I believe, going by the models and DoW:DC; it seems to function somehow or other in venting waste heat perhaps, as it's got a blue glow in DC.
Just my 2c, you've got a nice project going with this...
Posted: 2006-11-14 10:33pm
by Inquisitor Ryan
Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.
Posted: 2006-11-14 11:11pm
by Elheru Aran
Inquisitor Ryan wrote:Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.
Then I've got some really wack models, as the rifle's definitely got hemispheres on both sides of the end where that circle is...
Posted: 2006-11-14 11:17pm
by TheMuffinKing
How do you aim it?
Posted: 2006-11-14 11:41pm
by Elheru Aran
TheMuffinKing wrote:How do you aim it?
As has been mentioned earlier, there's an optical sight that also acts like a digital camera piping its view directly to the Tau Firewarrior or Pathfinder's helmet.
Posted: 2006-11-15 12:06am
by The Jazz Intern
Well, the picture shoes a diffeent rifle from the one in the sprues. which is higher cannon?
(here's a sprue one.)
Posted: 2006-11-15 12:09am
by Elheru Aran
The Jazz Intern wrote:Well, the picture shoes a diffeent rifle from the one in the sprues. which is higher cannon?
(here's a sprue one.)
Check NecronLord's picture which he linked to earlier-- it's a GW picture with fan text pasted on. Games Workshop's canon policy is basically *everything* that fits or can be shoehorned into the universe, is canon.
The different rifles can be explained by different Earth caste manufactories using slightly different patterns for their factories.
Welcome back incidentally, long time no see...
Posted: 2006-11-15 12:34am
by Inquisitor Ryan
Elheru Aran wrote:Inquisitor Ryan wrote:Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.
Then I've got some really wack models, as the rifle's definitely got hemispheres on both sides of the end where that circle is...
Ok, all the pictures i've seen of the models don't show that very well, if i'd modelled the Pulse rifle i'd have done the same thing. (Personally it'd look better if it was flush with the rifle. Seems a little front heavy with the bulges when you think about it.)
Posted: 2006-11-18 11:10pm
by The Jazz Intern
ah, alright.
thank you, incidently.
I also have a question- how do they aim? did we say if it was the eye piece that connects to the helmet?
Posted: 2006-11-19 03:09am
by Winston Blake
I'm not a 40Ker, but isn't it stupid to rely on a camera relay system so much that you don't include sights or even a stock? Are they really so reliable that it's not a problem? I can accept the centre of mass as being artistic license, but not even a pair of notches in case your camera breaks or the lens gets dirty?
Posted: 2006-11-19 04:42am
by Inquisitor Ryan
Hell speak to the tau who don't even have eye-holes in their helmets, they're completely dependant on artificial input.
The Tau are advanced, not bright.
@ Jazz Intern: Your welcome.
Posted: 2006-11-19 12:23pm
by Tasoth
Winston Blake wrote:I'm not a 40Ker, but isn't it stupid to rely on a camera relay system so much that you don't include sights or even a stock? Are they really so reliable that it's not a problem? I can accept the centre of mass as being artistic license, but not even a pair of notches in case your camera breaks or the lens gets dirty?
It wouldn't be Shiney then and if it isn't shiney, who'd want to buy it?