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My first attempt at 3d....

Posted: 2007-08-19 12:43pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
My original hand drawn concept:
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........and its 3d counterpart (loose interpretation):
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and........
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Havent really found a way to connect the nacelles/engines/pointy things to the structure like I did in my concept drawing. Let me know what you guys think.

Posted: 2007-08-19 01:02pm
by salm
Are these perspective shots or orthographic projections? These shots look very confusing especially the first one.
Very nice sketch though.

Posted: 2007-08-19 01:10pm
by Havok
The hand drawn one is cool!
It looks far superior to the 3D one.

Posted: 2007-08-19 01:22pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
They are perspective, from rear 3/4 and front 3/4 view.

Posted: 2007-08-19 01:29pm
by Havok
Kinda seems like Jem H'adar meets Robotech.

Posted: 2007-08-19 01:57pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Actually those are two of my inspiration for the desing. I went a little less flamboyant than either of those and mixed in a little of the more robust feel of the star wars designs.

Posted: 2007-08-19 02:30pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
....First attempt!?! Image

Wow. Love the design, too. You're extremely good at orthographics as well, but there are enough differences between it and the 3d version to look like two different ships. Are you using Google Sketchup?

To conclude, you have massive amounts of talent; maybe you can make concept designs for games or movies.

Posted: 2007-08-19 03:45pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Thanks, its actually the first time ive ever shown any of my drawings, well, to anyone. And yes, im doing sketchup. Really, im using it just to help me see the basic form of the ship in 3 dimensions, not to be totally accurate. And that is just one of many, I have alot of other designs.

Posted: 2007-08-19 04:25pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
What's your weaponry and technology base for these ships?

Posted: 2007-08-19 04:48pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Actually, never really thought about that. All that I know is the the limited fiction I thought up has the technology beyond GE but not by a large margin. Ive actually got this pic to help out with scale also:
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and this is that ship's sister, supposedly same basic superstructure but with a completely different combat role:
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She's incomplete at the moment, I've only got the top view as of now, but Ill have the rest done soon.

Posted: 2007-08-19 06:48pm
by AK-047
Oh wow, these designs are awesome. I thought they were starfighters before I saw the ISD.

Posted: 2007-08-19 06:55pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Just finished a new piece: Image
...still some fine tuning to do, and have one of both of them together..
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...now, someone spoke about a fighter:
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Posted: 2007-08-19 11:57pm
by Alan Bolte
Looking at the drawing, the only connection between the nacelles and the main hull is through the spoiler-shaped bit.

Posted: 2007-08-20 02:42am
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Thats true, but I couldnt render it like that in sketchup, so i just improvised.

Posted: 2007-08-21 10:07pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Id really appreciate any feedback you guys can give me: criticism is welcome of any sort.

Posted: 2007-08-21 10:11pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Grahf: Seeker Of Power wrote:Id really appreciate any feedback you guys can give me: criticism is welcome of any sort.
Fighter's nice, but that squared-off trailing edge on the wing keeps drawing my eye to it. I have a keen interest in aerodynamics, and that TE keeps screaming at me to have it fixed. :lol:

Posted: 2007-08-21 10:23pm
by Frank Hipper
Einy, check out the X-15 for square trailing edges.

Posted: 2007-08-21 10:30pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Frank Hipper wrote:Einy, check out the X-15 for square trailing edges.
I know. It works great for a vertical stabilizer on a hypersonic plane, but not anywhere as well on a transonic lift-producing wing. It encourages airflow to turn up around the TE at high angles of attack, causing flow separation and stall sooner than otherwise for a normal sharp TE. It also causes unnecessary amounts of base drag (the reason artillery shells have boattails and base-bleed units for long range). :)

Posted: 2007-08-22 04:05am
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Update: Finished the final model of my first concept in Sketchup:
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Feel free to comment/critique/shower with praise/vomit on, whatever floats your boat.

P.S.-Soon to come is the BIG DAWG!!!!!-

Posted: 2007-08-24 09:26pm
by salm
Looks nice. I like it. :D

Posted: 2007-08-24 09:51pm
by Chardok
Grahf: Seeker Of Power wrote:<snippage newest ship pics>
Hey Grahf, I like that last one alot, but I'm having trouble with scale. Any way you could paste in like....a silhouette of another ship somewhere or, if it's small enough, a man-sized figure (6 feet)?

Posted: 2007-08-24 10:54pm
by Gil Hamilton
Heh, that's awesome. It looks like something from StarFox. :D

Posted: 2007-08-25 12:54pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
I dont have a pic like that, all I can tell you is that its around 3500 meters long.

Posted: 2007-08-25 01:54pm
by salm
If you´re going to texture it the scale will probably be more apparent as there will most likely be things like windows on it which make the scale visible.

Posted: 2007-08-26 02:41pm
by Grahf: Seeker Of Power
Im only using the textures that come with sketchup. And I never designed windows into the original concept, much less into the model itself.