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Mystery ship #1
Posted: 2003-01-27 07:58pm
by Frank Hipper
Same rules as last week.
Using the quote function to read the URL is cheating. This one isn't all that hard anyway.
SeaSkimmer, I'm afraid you're disqualified, because if
you don't know this one, I'll beat you with a stick.
Cookie time for the first correct answer, and please provide info as to how you come to your conclusions.
Posted: 2003-01-27 10:08pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
(Has absolutely zero knowledge of ships.)
What if someone randomly guessed?
Posted: 2003-01-27 10:13pm
by Baron Mordo
The Merrimac?
Posted: 2003-01-27 10:15pm
by Mr Bean
*Can't guess
*looks at URL Link
ITS THAT?
Damn I'm out of date
Posted: 2003-01-27 10:33pm
by Frank Hipper
Not the Merrimac, Baron Mordo.
IRG CommandoJoe, guess your little heart out.
Mr. Bean, think anyone can get it?
Posted: 2003-01-28 01:22am
by IRG CommandoJoe
Hmm...I'd say......the uh......
Steamsailer-class ship.
(Looks at URL)
Oh well.
Posted: 2003-01-28 01:31am
by Frank Hipper
Even naming the class of ship will earn you a cookie. Correctly, that is. Unless there are major differences from ship to ship, pinning it down to individual units in a class of several examples is just too hard.
Clue #1- This ship still exists as a wreck.[/i]
Posted: 2003-01-28 01:34am
by Enlightenment
The presense of both sails and prop suggests that it predates the first US ironclads. Is it an early British ironclad of some kind?
Posted: 2003-01-28 01:46am
by Frank Hipper
Predates the first American ships by @6 months. And not British.
Posted: 2003-01-28 02:32am
by The Dark
French ironclad Gloire? The date and rigging are what make me guess that.
I am purposely not looking at the URL until Hipper tells whether I'm right or not.
Posted: 2003-01-28 02:47am
by Knife
Hmmm, I was going to guess british, but you already said no.
Posted: 2003-01-28 03:16am
by Frank Hipper
The Dark wrote:French ironclad Gloire? The date and rigging are what make me guess that.
I am purposely not looking at the URL until Hipper tells whether I'm right or not.
Nope. Here's a photo of the mystery ship's sister on laundry day, though.
Posted: 2003-01-28 04:53am
by Kenny_10_Bellys
The SS Teakettle perhaps? I read something about the development of propellor driven steam vessels, when they tied one to a paddle driven ship for a tug-o-war test and it towed it around the bay backwards. I'd guess it'd be one of those, still got sails just in case and not yet developed the gun turret. 1880's maybe? French? A boat?
Posted: 2003-01-28 02:58pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Im thinking something around the era of the American Civil War. If this thing is not US or British, could it be Russian?
Posted: 2003-01-28 04:36pm
by Jadeite
Actually, I can prob find this one, I have a HUGE encyclopedia of warships by class, in chapters by date. the problem is that finding it, in the book is going to take some time.
Posted: 2003-01-28 04:41pm
by Jadeite
Its probably french, looks about like their other ships in terms of style, definitely before the 1900s, prob before the 1890s.
Posted: 2003-01-28 04:46pm
by Jadeite
Found it!
Magenta
Other ships in class: Solferino
Construction started in 1859, completed in 1861.
It was designed by Dupuy d.e Lome.
Heh, bad fate too, this is from the book: On 31 October 1875, a fire took hold in the Magenta's wardroom galley, and the ship exploded and sank.
Edit: I passed it up the first couple times through that time period, the book has the pic of it painted differently.
Posted: 2003-01-28 08:55pm
by Frank Hipper
To Jadeite- a cookie!
Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one.
Posted: 2003-01-28 10:05pm
by Jadeite
To Jadeite- a cookie!
Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one.
Thank you, lets see, the book is titled: "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships: A technical directory of capital ships from 1860 to the present day" its from 1983, has 324 ship classes over 272 pages, and has 1000 pics in it.
Posted: 2003-01-28 11:44pm
by Frank Hipper
Jadeite wrote:To Jadeite- a cookie!
Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one.
Thank you, lets see, the book is titled: "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships: A technical directory of capital ships from 1860 to the present day" its from 1983, has 324 ship classes over 272 pages, and has 1000 pics in it.
By Tony Gibbons. I read and "used" my copy until it fell apart. I took it to my tattoo artist because I was hoping he could do something for me with the photo in the Jaureguiberry listing. Last time I saw my FAVORITE book.
I love how he has Dreadnought as a size comparison.
Posted: 2003-01-29 02:53pm
by Jadeite
By Tony Gibbons. I read and "used" my copy until it fell apart. I took it to my tattoo artist because I was hoping he could do something for me with the photo in the Jaureguiberry listing. Last time I saw my FAVORITE book. I love how he has Dreadnought as a size comparison.
Yeah, that sucks, my copy is falling apart too, the pages on the inside have seperated from the hardback spine of it, and are simply kept together by the glue. Have you ever read "Sea Power: A Modern Illustrated Military History"? its an old book also, but good.
Posted: 2003-01-29 05:13pm
by Howedar
Just looks like Warrior with another deck to my uneducated eye, although the bow is a bit off.