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Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-14 10:48pm
by FSTargetDrone
A few weeks back I drove from Philadelphia, PA to Camden, NJ to see the ex-USS New Jersey. She is a museum ship berthed on the Delaware River, not far from where she was laid down at the Philadelphia Navy Yard. I went in the middle of the week to avoid the crowds and there were so few people aboard that day, the only tour available was the self-guided tour. Visitors are given a digital audio player and headphones so they can listen to a nicely presented stereo program about the ship featuring some of the men who served aboard. I took well over 700 pictures during my nearly five hours aboard. So here are about half of them. :) Clicking on a picture should take you to my Flickr page where you can see the full-sized version (just click on the "All Sizes" icon at the top of the image on the Flickr page itself. Eventually I will post all 700+ images on my Flickr page and link the set here for anyone who cares to see everything.

Okay, let's have a look at the ship. New Jersey is an Iowa-class battleship, was laid down at the Philadelphia Naval Ship Yard in 1940 and launched in 1942. She mounts nine 16-inch guns in three main turrets (two forward and one aft with three guns in each), twelve 5-inch guns in six secondary turrets (three on each side with two guns per turret), 32 Tomahawk Cruise missiles and 16 Harpoon missiles. For air defense against missiles, she employs four 20mm CIWS guns (two on each side) and clusters of SRBOC launchers (each side). She also uses a NIXIE towed decoy system to foil torpedo attacks.

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If I had taken the ferry across the Delaware River, I'd have been able to get a better picture of her full length, port side. As it was, I took a shuttle bus from Philadelphia across the Ben Franklin Bridge into Camden. From the starboard side, it's difficult to get the whole ship in view, especially with the large ramp/elevator structure tourists use to get aboard. The ship is 887 feet, 7 inches long, making her the longest battleship ever built, several inches longer than even her three other sister ships, the Iowa, Missouri and Wisconsin. The ship's beam is 108 feet. The top of the main mast is 172 feet from the water.

Note the cylindrical armored conning tower which penetrates the bridge levels seen at the center of the superstructure, behind the number two turret and forward of the 5-inch gun director that has a circular radar dish on top. There is a white-colored rotating marine radar mounted on top of the conning tower. It is the T-shaped device almost at the center of the image (you may need to look at the larger images to see it clearly). We will look at this area up close later on. Just forward of the main mast, the gun director for the forward 16-inch gun turrets can be seen.

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Radar atop the main mast.

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The mast is situated above the ship's forward smoke stack. Also visible are two of the four directors for the secondary 5-inch gun batteries. The directors are the structures with the small dish on top. One is on the right side of the photo and the other is left of center, below the mast.

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One of the six 5-inch gun turrets that are mounted on both sides of the ship, three to a side. Originally, New Jersey had ten of the secondary turrets (five on either side), but four of them were removed to make room for Tomahawk missile launchers. The smaller gun above with the white dome is a CIWS air defense gun. We'll take a closer look at these weapons once we get aboard.

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Two of the ship's boats on the starboard side. The lowermost boat is the Admiral's Barge, used by Rear Admiral Paul Reason when the New Jersey served as his flagship in 1990. You can also see the Harpoon missile launchers aft of the boats and above the 5-inch gun turret. The ship's aft smoke stack is visible.

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Okay, let's get aboard already!

This structure projecting from the side of the number one main gun turret houses a sighting system. All of these are now covered, but do not appear to be plated over. Rather, they seem to be sealed with a flexible cover of some kind. Take a look at the large version of this and you can see the painted-over cover and what appears to be tape.

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Big, expensive ropes.

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Here is the location of one of the long-removed 40mm anti-aircraft gun tubs the ship originally had during WW2 and the Korean War. The red line is for the self-guided tour.

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Need some help with this from one of our ship experts, but I believe that this "NSDS Link 11" antenna on the forecastle is used for ship-to-ship communication. Beyond that, I can't find much more information. Unfortunately, the deck forward of the wooden planking is off-limits, so this is about as close as we can get for now. The large chains below the antenna mounting are attached to the anchors on either side of the bow.

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These capstans are used to lower and raise the anchor chains. The chains are drawn around each capstan and are fed into a chain locker below the deck. The chains enter the deck via an opening as seen here.

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Capstan on the opposite side. Each link in the chain weighs 110 pounds. Each anchor chain is 1122 feet long. The ship's two anchors each weigh 30,000 pounds.

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Anchor chain brake control wheels.

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Mysterious hatch of wonder and delight. Actually, I forget where this goes. I think it's some kind of stores loading hatch, or possibly access to the chain locker?

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A quick diversion while we have a good view... Across the river on the Philadelphia side we can see the buff- and white-colored Protected Cruiser USS Olympia berthed at Penn's Landing, (behind another vessel). She was launched in November, 1892 and served in the Spanish-American War in 1898 and also during the First World War. In 1921, she returned the body of the Unknown Soldier of WWI to the US. Olympia is the oldest steel-hulled warship in the world to remain afloat. The submarine USS Becuna is on Olympia's starboard side, out of view here. Eventually, I'll be visiting both Becuna and Olympia.

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Kicking myself now... This is the LÉ Eithne, the flagship of the Irish Navy which was visiting Philadelphia the week I went to see New Jersey. I didn't know what this ship was until after I got home and by then it was too late to take the free tour. I also missed seeing the HMCS Fredericton which was in port and available for free tours the following week. Dammit.

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Okay, back to New Jersey. Let's head down to the Anchor Windlass Room and we'll also see some of the crew bunk spaces.

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This is the Anchor Windlass Room which houses machinery used to raise and lower the ship's anchors.

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There are many brass fittings in and on the ship. This is an electrical outlet.

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Lots of pipes down here, on the bulkheads...

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And above your heads.

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Aft of the Anchor Windlass Room is the Enlisted Berthing area. Under each bunk is storage for a sailor's gear and personal items. The boxes with the rounded, reddish diamond-shapes contain emergency smoke hoods.

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Whoever used this bunk liked Conan the Barbarian comics, John Grisham novels and Kool Mo Dee. :)

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Raiders? Get outta town.

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More personal belongings.

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Now this is more like it. Go Phillies!

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Chess, anyone? Checkers?

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The reception down here is really bad. No, actually the TV was showing a well-worn videotape of the ship in action. The "3" on the wall is for the digital audio player given to visitors. So, if you have the player on you, press "3" now...

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Some ducting.

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Okay, let's head aft.

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But not topside yet. Of course, I could lift that hatch if I wanted to.

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More bunks. Just be sure to watch yourself during those bleary-eyed, early morning wake-up calls...

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...because the ladder space nearby goes at least 4 decks down.

Wish we could check it out.

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Various water flow controls.

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Sailor art. Unfortunately, this space was rather narrow and I literally could not step back far enough to get the whole thing head-on and in frame. And it won't be the last time, as we'll see again and again later. For as large as this vessel is, it's quite cramped in a lot of places.

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This tells you how to find out where you are. It's readable in the larger sizes linked from the photo.

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Okay, time to head up and out again.

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We just came up through the hatch in the foreground. The door in the background leads down to the windlass room we just saw. The hatches themselves are just inside these small enclosures. Vestiges of a another 40mm AA gun tub can be seen on the deck.

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The ship's main deck is covered with teak wood. A lot of it is in pretty bad shape. There are plans to refurbish the deck with replacement teak. But it's expensive...

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You have no idea how much I wanted to climb up on top of these turrets. No worries, though. We'll take a look inside the number two turret in a bit. Each of the these turrets weigh 1,750 tons. The armor on the front faces of the turrets is 17 inches thick with a thinner layer of 2.5 inch-thick armor behind it. The armor on the rear face is 12 inches thick and the sides with 9.5 inch armor. The roof is covered with 7.25 inches of armor. Visible stretching across the deck is the angled breakwater. The forward, T-shaped 16-inch gun director is visible below the radar on the main mast.

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Okay, let's have a closer look at the number two main gun turret. This is the left side of the 26' rangefinder on the outside of the number two turret. It's encased in an armored box and it looks like there is a weather cover over the optics.

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From behind.

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An example of one of the shells fired by the main guns.

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One of the powder bags. The shells and powder bags were stored in spaces below the turret itself, several decks down.

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Rear edge of the turret with welds visible.

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Here is one of the openings under the rear overhang structure of the turret. The hatch itself has been removed and is on the deck behind the ladder. Keep in mind that 27 men worked inside each turret and another 50 in the shell storage and powder magazines below each turret. Now let's see just how cramped it was inside these massive turrets.

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As we look around the turret, here is a photo of the layout of the interior. Our exploration will be generally limited to the dark tan-colored area surrounding the light blue rangefinder. The spaces below the turret and the guns themselves are off-limits.

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We've just come up through the hatchway and are looking forward inside the turret and down at some of the 26' rangefinder controls and optical devices.

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This range scale is immediately to the right of the view piece above.

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Directly below the sight above is a (traversing?) control wheel.

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One of the seats. There are two other seats, one each to the left and right. This seat is centered and directly behind the rangefinder, with the wheel above just visible. The rangefinder extends across the width of the turret and into the armored boxes we saw outside. The number one main turret lacks a rangefinder like this, it having been removed. If you look at the picture of the number one and two turrets above, you can see the number one turret is missing the large boxes on the sides which house the ends of the rangefinder.

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The rangefinder itself, looking forward and left. Note the folded seat below and additional view pieces and (elevation?) wheels and controls on the rangefinder.

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And its viewfinder. Unfortunately, as the rangefinder optics are covered (if not missing entirely), there isn't much to see through here.

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Moving forward and under the rangefinder now. Here we see the rangefinder extending into the armored housing we saw outside, looking aft and left.

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The opposite end, looking right and aft. Presumably the small wheels on each end are used to open and close the rangefinder covers? Note that the wheel on this side isn't connected to anything--its linkage seems to be missing, unlike the one above on the other side.

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Still looking aft, we see a conveniently-mounted vice on a shelf in front of the rangefinder.

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Below and to the side of the shelf is this, but I have no idea what it is other than it seems to be made of brass.

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Okay, turning around now and looking forward, we can look through the glass into the dimly-lit gun spaces.

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The breech and recoil cylinders of the center gun are barely visible. Because of the glass, there was no chance of using the flash.

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EDIT: I found a decent video taken aboard USS Wisconsin (same class as New Jersey) showing the loading and firing of these weapons. Check it out here.

One of the powder hoist access doors. Sadly, they were chained shut.

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Nearby phone. Note the heavy cover hanging below the viewport looking into the gun spaces.

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Fire sprinkler valves.

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Telephone switch box. I forgot to open it.

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Each turret has several periscopes like this, penetrating the roof of the turret itself. As an aside, the air inside the turret was quite warm, even though it wasn't a particularly hot day. Still, after hours of sunlight beating down on that thick steel, the roof was noticeably warm to the touch.

Anyway, I wonder...

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A quick elevation chart consultation...

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Hm, no numbers. Well, that was useless. But this seems promising. Just a little bit to the left and...

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...we can see across the Delaware and into Philadelphia. For those unfamiliar with the city, that is One Liberty Place on the right and Two Liberty Place on the left. One Liberty is the second-tallest building in Philadelphia.

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And yes, I did put the crosshairs on the buildings, but it seemed slightly tasteless to photograph it. :)

Okay, time to bail out of here so we can see some more of the ship.

Port side of the ship looking forward. The Benjamin Franklin Bridge is visible north of the ship, crossing from Philadelphia to Camden. There is Eithne again, as well.

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Looking aft. The Swiss cargo ship Luzern is visible in the distance.

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Alright, let's step inside to the Officers' Wardroom.

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There was an enormous model of the ship across from the hatchway, but I forgot to take a closer look at it!

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Looking forward before we move aft, leaving the Wardroom.

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Various fittings and electrical boxes.

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Very brassy. I like it.

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Lots of wiring overhead

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This is hook is rather inconveniently-placed. Perhaps that's why it's painted white, so no one would notice it! That, or the pipe was installed sometime afterward. I prefer the inconveniently-placed hook story, myself.

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Looking down. We won't go down now, but later and via another route.

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Damage control plates like these are stored at various places throughout the ship. Again, the passageway was narrow, so this is a good of a view as I could get with my camera.

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Okay, heading outside again. We will see some more of the first and second levels of the ship, shifting back and forth a bit, so pardon the bouncing around.

I forget where I was looking into here, but it may be an office of some kind, given the shelves of files, or somesuch. Also a hanging plant.

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Firefighting gear.

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This hatch wasn't really supposed to be opened by the tourists...

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So I just snuck a quick peak. Unfortunately, the flash wasn't ready and there were people coming behind me. Not much to see at any rate. Just some old paint cans, a fan and assorted whatnot.

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Tramampoline!

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Main mast far above. CIWS visible just to the left.

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I don't envy the people who had to paint this ship. There are a lot of surfaces, nooks and crannies.

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Saluting gun. I very much wanted to see the gun with the cover off, but no joy.

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Navigation Bridge with, I believe, the Flag Bridge below it. Note the cylindrical conning tower which rises through the bridge levels, visible just above the tarp on the left side. We'll take a look at all of these areas later on.

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Entering the Admiral's quarter's on the second level. These quarters belonged to Rear Admiral Paul Reason. Adm. Reason served aboard the New Jersey for the ship's last deployment.

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Doesn't it look just like your parents' old den? They probably even had the same chairs and lamp. Actually, it reminds me of a waiting room in a doctor's office. The only difference is that the walls probably weren't made out of steel. :)

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Admirals get pretty nice beds! I'm not thrilled about the baby blue paint, though. Reminds me of a pool locker room. I can almost smell the chlorine.

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The admiral's desk.

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The admiral's shower.

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Just around the corner a bit from the admiral's quarters.

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Various equipment.

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This is Officer Country. It's also off-limits. Anyway, we're on our way to the Junior Officers' Staterooms.

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And here we are. A bit cramped but not too bad. These simulated officers are enjoying story time.

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One room over and it's similar to the first. With the exception of this giant cylinder in the room. Wonder what it's for...

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Vaseline jar above the sink. Also, a similarly-old tube of toothpaste.

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Okay, this post is getting a bit unwieldy, so as we get ready to head back outside again I will end this post now. I'll come back with more pictures in another post, later.

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Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-14 11:39pm
by Isolder74
Ex USS New Jersey? She still is the USS New Jersey or did they rename it?

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-14 11:50pm
by FSTargetDrone
Isolder74 wrote:Ex USS New Jersey? She still is the USS New Jersey or did they rename it?
Unless I am mistaken, "ex-" is placed before the name of decommissioned US Naval ships.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-15 04:29am
by Raesene
I watched the diashow on your flickr-page - and turned yellowish-green with envy... Is it complete already or are some pictures missing still ?

Thank you for posting, I hope you take just as many pictures of Olympia and share them too ;-)

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-15 10:41am
by FSTargetDrone
Raesene wrote:I watched the diashow on your flickr-page - and turned yellowish-green with envy... Is it complete already or are some pictures missing still ?

Thank you for posting, I hope you take just as many pictures of Olympia and share them too ;-)
Ah, you're peeking ahead! :)

I will get the rest of the ones from the set up here soon, probably by the end of the weekend.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-15 10:02pm
by Simplicius
FSTargetDrone wrote:USS Olympia berthed at Penn's Landing, (behind another vessel).
The other vessel would be the barquentine Gazela, originally the Grand Banks fisherman Gazela Primiero. She was built in 1901 in Portugal and is an ambassador of the city of Philadelphia.

Cool tour of New Jersey, but I'm especially looking forward to Olympia.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-16 01:56am
by Memnon
Well, you could probably take a picture of the NJ in full from Penn's landing. And they light it up at night :D
The design of the crew quarters is pretty interesting, like the item storage - nice use of space.

This saves me the trip I've been thinking about taking. Though I might anyways.

EDIT: with a long lens anyways.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-16 11:10pm
by Frank Hipper
I was on board New Jersey in June of 1990 at San Pedro Harbor for an Open House, when she was still in comission.

Her decks were in absolutely abominable condition even back then.

However, unlike the tarpaulins deployed in your photos, the ones she had set that day had decorative tassles along the edges, something I've never seen in any photo of any warship, ever.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 12:42am
by FSTargetDrone
Simplicius wrote:The other vessel would be the barquentine Gazela, originally the Grand Banks fisherman Gazela Primiero. She was built in 1901 in Portugal and is an ambassador of the city of Philadelphia.

Cool tour of New Jersey, but I'm especially looking forward to Olympia.
Excellent, thanks for that information.
Memnon wrote:Well, you could probably take a picture of the NJ in full from Penn's landing. And they light it up at night :D
The design of the crew quarters is pretty interesting, like the item storage - nice use of space.

This saves me the trip I've been thinking about taking. Though I might anyways.

EDIT: with a long lens anyways.
Go ahead and take the tour. I was aboard for 4-5 hours and I still didn't see it all. And that was taking my time--I spent something like 20 minutes in the turret alone and would have spent more time if I could.
Frank Hipper wrote:I was on board New Jersey in June of 1990 at San Pedro Harbor for an Open House, when she was still in comission.

Her decks were in absolutely abominable condition even back then.

However, unlike the tarpaulins deployed in your photos, the ones she had set that day had decorative tassles along the edges, something I've never seen in any photo of any warship, ever.
The condition of the decks is mentioned at least twice on the tour, both in the audio program and on a sign or two. I have a photograph of a small section of deck that has been restored and the difference is amazing. There is a sign about this I photographed and it talks about how during the restoration of the areas in question, the steel deck below the planks was, not surprisingly, in bad shape in some places. Soon as I find it, I'll add it to the photos yet to come.

Just by my untrained eye, I'd say that the deck has to be at the top of the list of things that need addressing fairly soon. There is some peeling paint in the interior (see the turret above and the photos of the 5-inch turrets to come) but from what I could see, things seem pretty sound inside. I have no idea what the condition of the lower interior decks is, but the engine spaces (currently off limits) are due to be part of the tour sometime next year. We'll see.

For the moment, let's head back outside.

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Time to look at the 5-inch turrets on the portside. The photos aren't all of the same turret and they are seen from different levels, but they are all similar. Because of the cramped and narrow spaces, it's difficult to see the same turret from different angles and get decent shots. Frontal turret armor is 2.5 inches thick. Each turret was crewed by 14 men and one the 5-inch turrets was manned by Marines on New Jersey.

One of the 5-inch gun turrets. Behind it is an upraised Tomahawk missile launcher.

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Note how the rear of the turret is curved.

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The superstructure behind the turret is similarly curved.

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Artwork inside the roof of one of the port-side turrets.

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I have no idea what happened with the focus here, sorry. You can still make out the gunner's controls. Rack for shells visible to the right. Unlike the 16-inch guns, the 5-inch weapons were loaded by hand.

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More artwork, sadly peeling off. It looks like some kind of Grim Reaper figure, but it's in shambles and hard to tell.

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Breech of one of the two guns. Unfortunately, tourists aren't permitted to enter these turrets, so this is as good as it gets

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This plaque is attached to one of these turrets.

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More to come...

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 03:22am
by FSTargetDrone
Heading up to the bridge levels now...

Signal lamp. The shutters are opened and closed by using either of the handles on the sides.

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Well, we couldn't climb atop the turrets earlier, but as we make our way up to the bridge levels, this is almost as good as being there...

Note again, the extension on the side of the turret housing the rangefinder.

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New Jersey is the most decorated US Naval ship in existence, and here are her decorations. Perhaps one of our experts can describe some of them?

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These now-covered vision slits were interesting. This area is behind the Flag Bridge and the openings are sealed with relatively thin sheet metal, or at least that's what it felt like when I rapped a knuckle on it. Anyway, the openings were sealed for whatever reason, but the flip-down frame holding the glass used to cover it originally was left in place.

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I wonder if these could be closed from inside? There appears to be more here than a simple hinge. Perhaps they were released and then just simply fell into place by gravity. I'm guessing pressure could be applied to the hinge, preventing the frame from flapping about, but that is just a guess.

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Heading forward and inside the Flag Bridge now. These stars were painted on the deck of the Flag Bridge by the ship's crew in 1968 in honor of Admiral William Halsey who commanded the US Fleet from the New Jersey during the Second World War. He was promoted to a five-star fleet admiral at the end of the war.

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The box to the left is some kind of audio amplifier. The second box from the left on top (above the Bat Phone) is used to control the window wipers. The round box to its right seems to be another wiper control.

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This chair (or the one on the opposite side of the bridge) is for the Admiral alone. Actually, on the audio program, it asks that visitors do not sit in the chair, as only the admiral is to have that honor.

The tour audio noted that the window glass had to be lowered before the main guns were fired. Otherwise, there would be lots of broken glass to pick up!

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One of the gyro-compass repeaters on the bridge. This took compass signals from the master gyro-compass located elsewhere on the ship and displayed them here.

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Telephone, Type G. At the top, it says: "DO NOT DISCUSS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION."

See the cup holder?

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Do you think anyone would notice if I switched all of these around? I can only guess how much wiring snakes its way around and in the ship.

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These diamonds painted on the deck are a mystery to me. If it was mentioned, I've forgotten what it signifies. Any ideas?

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Electrical outlet? These are found all over the ship.

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The tapering armored ring around the edge of this porthole is interesting. Well, it seemed like it was armored. I didn't see any others like it.

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Description of the state of the Teakwood on the ship and its restoration. Click on the picture and then select a larger size image from the upper left to read it.

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Before and after.

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These planks are well away from outside exposure.

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Up on the Navigation Bridge now. The massive conning tower seen here is three levels high. This is the port side door on the conning tower. The door and the walls of the conning tower itself are more than 17 inches thick. This is similar to the front faces of the 16-inch gun turrets.

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There are two doors. Each door weighs more than 1 ton. Notice the shaft coming through the deck below which opens and closes the door.

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It's similar to a bank vault door. Notice how the cylinder in the center is slid into place to hold the door open.

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More phones.

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This equipment and the phones above are between the two doors.

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Inside the conning tower, looking through the port-side door. Unfortunately, the interior is roped-off.

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One of the forward vision slits in the conning tower. The saw-toothed bracing welded above is interesting.

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The periscopes in here are similar to those found in the turrets.

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Functioning marine radar. If you watch it awhile, other ships in the Delaware can be seen in the display as they approach. The radar display is located immediately below the periscope seen in the photo above.

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Coming around the port-side of the conning tower. This is the front of the conning tower, looking aft and starboard, showing one of the vision slits we saw from the inside.

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The starboard vision slit. Presumably, there was once armor glass installed here.

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The ship's wheel can be seen as we look through the other opening of the conning tower on the starboard side.

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As an aside, seeing real naval bridges such as these, the bridge seen on the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701, that is) seems positively expansive. Even the bridge on the Defiant seems roomy. Oh well, that's TV for you. :)

Finally, the other door itself.

Does anyone know the significance of the "Z" label? I've seen that elsewhere, too. Also, "X" can be seen inside the conning tower at the end of a pipe (several pictures up). Any ideas?

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Some more equipment. This is immediately aft of the conning tower.

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"Rules of the Road"? Interesting...

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Roped-off again. The other side of the barely-visible porthole here (in front of the manikin) can be seen 2 photos up, on the left side. I tried taking pictures through the glass on the other side, but the glass (or Plexiglas) was badly scratched.

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Captain's sea cabin, aft of the area we just saw above. Again, it was roped off, so this is the best I can do.

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We have more to see, another level up, but that will wait until the next post

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 11:05am
by tim31
I'll say this: they don't make 'em like they used to.

Nice pics Targs, I try to do a tour of every warship that comes into port here, but of course all we get are destroyers and frigates...

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 03:19pm
by RogueIce
FSTargetDrone wrote:Does anyone know the significance of the "Z" label? I've seen that elsewhere, too. Also, "X" can be seen inside the conning tower at the end of a pipe (several pictures up). Any ideas?
They're the doors that get shut when a certain Material Condition is set. IE: Condition X-Ray means all those doors with an "X" are closed, and Condition Zebra is when the doors with a "Z" are closed. And, naturally, they can be modified at the CO's discretion. Read more here or wait and see if one of the Navy guys come by, who had actual experience with it and can doubtless tell you more than I could.
FSTargetDrone wrote:"Rules of the Road"? Interesting...
Yep, there are Rules of the Road for ships, just like for cars. It wouldn't surprise me if the same holds true for aircraft.

There's a reason starboard lights are green and port lights are red, which is related to this. The Coast Guard can tell you more. :)

BTW, it wouldn't surprise me if somebody who was not an admiral has managed to sit in The Chair at some point, even while the ship was in service.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 03:34pm
by Isolder74
The New Jersey might be the most decorated Battleship but I must point out the CV-6 USS Enterprise earned more battle stars and has both a Presidential Unit Citation(basically a Medal of Honor so to speak) and British Admiralty Pennant which makes it either well in the running to be more decorated or dead even. All of those earned just during the course of WWII.

It is one of the greatest travesties of history that you can't tour the Big E as it was melted down for scrap. It is gone forever, the fightingest ship of the Pacific War......

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 04:25pm
by FSTargetDrone
RogueIce wrote:Yep, there are Rules of the Road for ships, just like for cars. It wouldn't surprise me if the same holds true for aircraft.
I understand, but I guess I thought it would be called something like, "Rules of the Sea." Or sea-lanes. Something about the "sea." :)

EDIT, thanks for that information above, RogueIce. Very interesting!

More pictures to come later on.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 05:27pm
by FSTargetDrone
Okay, one level above the Navigation Bridge and we're looking at a fire-control station which is inside the top of the conning tower that we just looked at below. It has a single thick, armored door along the centerline and view slits, similar to the ones below.

Unfortunately, the open is covered with Plexiglas and the interior is dark. There was no hope of photography and it was so bright outside, I could barely see anything inside as it was.

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Up here, the armored glass is in place at the front of the tower. Note the gear and bar mechanism which raised and lowered the glass. This seems to be missing of the front of the conning tower's view slits, one level down.

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With our backs to the conning tower, we have a heck of a view from up here. There is the top of the number two 16-inch turret that we were crawling through earlier. Note the folded frame on top of the turret, to the right. If I remember the reading I did, this was used to attach lines for transferring material from this ship to others.

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And the periscope we looked through while in the turret is on the left. Note the anti-skid coating on the tops of the turrets. The 5-inch turrets have a similar coating.

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Okay, let's look at some of the controls and displays in front of the conning tower at the front of the deck...

All stop.

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Shaft Revolution Indicator. Hm, someone's running the shafts, I guess.

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Anyone know what this...

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And this are called? The one above seems to have something to to with the rudder angle.

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Hatch in the deck in front of the conning tower.

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Back behind the tower, still looking forward. From the rear, we can see the rotating marine radar feeding the radar display in the conning tower, one level down. Look at the second picture at the very start of this thread and you'll see exactly where we are, on top of the bridge levels. We are between the conning tower and forward of the gun director.

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Okay, looking aft again, this time up at the forward 5-inch gun director's radar dish. Unfortunately, this is as high up as we're allowed to go right now. The horizontal cylinder with the red interior at the top is the ship's horn. There is a bell inside one of those two upper levels, but we can't see it from here. Note the painted-over view ports at several levels, above and below the loudspeaker.

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Better view of the forward 5-inch gun director and its radar. A cluster of periscopes is on top of the conning tower.

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There's the ship's bell, just visible behind the railing towards the bottom of the photo.

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Looking forward one last time at the conning tower as we pass the forward gun director.

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More to come. We'll see the CIWS and Tomahawk missiles as we walk aft along the port side.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 05:33pm
by Tsyroc
FSTargetDrone wrote: The box to the left is some kind of audio amplifier. The second box from the left on top (above the Bat Phone) is used to control the window wipers. The round box to its right seems to be another wiper control.

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The "bat phone" is actually where radio communication are patched in. The box to the left with the black face has two sets of numbers that can be changed which allows the user to switch between several different channels and several different types of communication based on what the radiomen have patched in to the various addresses. UHF, HF, and Sat Com for sure. Both secure and clear, although I would guess that from that phone they'd mostly use secure because it's a little annoying using authentication tables.

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Electrical outlet? These are found all over the ship.

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That is actually a sound powered phone jack. I'm not fully certain how they work but you screw the sound powered phone cable into that jack and then you can have communications to other sound powered phones in that network even when the ship's main power is down. I'm not sure if they have to be powered at all. I've always had them described to me as being like an advanced version of the old two cans with a string technique.

Normally that little slot on the top would have a placard or label telling you which sound powered phone network that one goes to. There are specific ones for communicating with Damage Control Central, the Bridge, CDC/CIC plus a bunch of smaller networks specifically for people doing specific jobs. As an EW we had some that went from the EW module in combat out to our equipments spaces and another one that allowed us to communicate with the people manning the SRBOC launchers.

There are some fancier setups where you can rotate a big brass dial and switch sound powered phone networks. It's all pretty cool when you consider how low tech it is and how much shit it can take before it goes out.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 06:45pm
by FSTargetDrone
Tsyroc wrote:The "bat phone" is actually where radio communication are patched in.
I was just being a wise-ass with the bat phone thing. :)
That is actually a sound powered phone jack. I'm not fully certain how they work but you screw the sound powered phone cable into that jack and then you can have communications to other sound powered phones in that network even when the ship's main power is down. I'm not sure if they have to be powered at all. I've always had them described to me as being like an advanced version of the old two cans with a string technique.
Ah, that makes more sense. There was one in the Admiral's Stateroom as well as countless other places. If you look at the first interior picture the conning tower from the port side on the Navigation Bridge, there's a gray box labeled "Switch box for sound powered telephone circuit" right underneath one of these jacks Sorry about the blur there.

Thanks for the info. Fascinating stuff.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-17 10:13pm
by FSTargetDrone
Alright, as we move aft, we'll examine one of the forward Phalanx CIWS turrets on the port side.

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The search radar for the weapon is inside the white domed structure.

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Ammunition storage.

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SRBOC (Super Rapid Bloom Offboard Countermeasures) launchers. They look like large versions of turret-mounted grenade/smoke launchers seen on tanks.

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The tubes are fixed in place, set at several different angles. There is no provision for changing elevation nor do the tubes rotate, but the set angles evidently provide the most effective field of coverage.

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Some of the weather covers are missing, but they are presumably popped off when the launcher fired its tube.

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Looking up from below the main mast. Its curved radar is just visible. I'm not fond of heights and wide open spaces at the same time but I'd still like to climb that.

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Port-side gun director. It's pretty much just like the forward one. The forward smoke stack is visible above and behind it.

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The plates making up the sides and front don't appear to be welded together, at least not on the outside, though the lower edges are clearly welded together. There are a number of what appear to be screwhead-type connectors. I'm guessing the sides, front and rear plates are attached to some kind of internal frame by the screws.

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Aft smoke stack flanked by the two aft CIWS turrets.

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Now, I don't know much about ships, but that antenna looks suspiciously like the one on the roof of my grandmother's old house! Wonder if they have a digital converter onboard...

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Starboard-side Phoenix missile launchers.

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Launchers on the port side. They are raised and fired across the centerline of the ship, apparently to reduce damage from the missiles' exhaust.

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The missiles break through a flexible membrane as they are fired.

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Opened access doors.

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This is an interesting spot. This was formerly the location of one of the 5-inch gun turrets that was removed to make room for the Tomahawks. You can make out its location in the planking.

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Magnetic compass forward of the Tomahawk launchers.

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It says it was made by the Lionel Corporation. Same as the toy train maker, I think.

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Large, double antenna-type structure on the starboard side and forward of the Tomahawk deck. There is no similar antenna on the port side.

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Reels of some kind.

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Another interesting spot, nearby. This is the ship's expansion joint.

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I had no idea such a thing existed before, but it makes sense. From what little i can find about it, the expansion joint is within the ship and up to the main deck, but there is no joint in the hull itself. Perhaps someone here can speak to this?

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More to come...

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-18 03:20am
by Tsyroc
FSTargetDrone wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:The "bat phone" is actually where radio communication are patched in.
I was just being a wise-ass with the bat phone thing. :)
I didn't mean to come across like I was dogging you for calling it the bat phone. I guess I didn't really need to use quotes since I was already quoting you. Anyway, FYI we often called it the bat phone ourselves. :)

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-18 03:41am
by Tsyroc
FSTargetDrone wrote: SRBOC (Super Rapid Bloom Offboard Countermeasures) launchers. They look like large versions of turret-mounted grenade/smoke launchers seen on tanks.

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The tubes are fixed in place, set at several different angles. There is no provision for changing elevation nor do the tubes rotate, but the set angles evidently provide the most effective field of coverage.

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Some of the weather covers are missing, but they are presumably popped off when the launcher fired its tube.
It looks like the SRBOC launchers on a battleship are the same as those on non-carrier surface vessels judging by the varried angles of the tubes. The covers have to be removed to load the rounds into the launchers and then a part of the round sticks out the top of the launchers. When they are loaded it's very clear that they are loaded. Normally, when not in use we would have had caps in the top of the tubes and also had a cover over the whole launcher because the maintenance on those things is a nightmare and they really don't like salt water.

The SRBOC rounds on most ships are essentially shot like mortar rounds. The ones for carriers have a rocket boost that shoots them out further away from the ship to hopefully get better chaff dispersal. I'm surprised that New Jersey didn't have those because of her size. Come to think of it they were kind of knew in the late 1980s so maybe New Jersey got what they had when she was reactivated. They probably counted on her being able to take whatever hits were sent her way that got through the CIWS anyway. :)

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-20 10:43pm
by FSTargetDrone
Okay, let's wrap things up.

Continuing to move aft as we pass two of the ship's boats.

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The audio program mentioned that one boat was manned at all times in case of a Man Overboard situation.

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Stretcher. We'll head in and down now.

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Remember, keep the hatches closed!

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Not sure what the flexible tube is for, but there are steam return lines to the right.

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Pump of some kind. Note the "firemain" lines in the back.

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This has something to do with the Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles.

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Yet another corridor. Even after several hours exploring the ship at this point, it's not hard to get turned around if you aren't paying attention. A lot of these passageways start to look the same after awhile.

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Sorry about the blur. I was starting to get semi-rushed at this point. Anyway, this is another area I would have liked to take a closer look at, but it's roped off. I think this area has something to do with the weapons, but I am not sure.

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Now we are entering a section of the ship that has been converted to a museum with various displays. At the moment, I forget what these areas originally were, but I'll see if I can find out. And apologies for the less-than-semi-decent photography here. It was dark, a lot of things are in cases and I was starting to get rather hungry, so I didn't take as much time as I'd like. Now, let's wander around and see what we can see.

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The USS New Jersey, BB-16, the first ship to carry the name "New Jersey."

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Some captured Japanese items.

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Mortar shell.

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There is a sizable collection of items related to Adm. Halsey.

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Not sure what this is.

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There is a nice collection of different ship models.

USS California.

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USS Nevada.

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USS Arizona.

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USS North Carolina.

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USS New Jersey in one of her WW2 paint schemes.

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It's interesting to compare the way ship looks in this configuration and the way it does now, especially with respect to the weapons carried. You can clearly see the where the four removed 5-inch turrets were located as well as all of the smaller caliber weapons.

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New Jersey as she appeared in 1968. Note the two forward gun tubs that were converted to swimming pools for the crew's use! Can't miss them--they are painted light blue inside. By this time all of the ship's smaller AA guns had been removed, but all ten 5-inch turrets were still in place.

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USS Ohio, one of the never-built Montana-class battleships.

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Italian battleship Roma.

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Japan's Yamato.

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Germany's Bismarck.

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Great Britain's Prince of Wales.

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France's Jean Bart.

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Japan's Kirishimia.

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Germany's Konig.

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There were no placards for these two:

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Various shells.

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This replica of a shell was the type fired by the Yamato. Click the pic for more information.

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"Minesniper" ROV used to destroy mines.

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Chair used to transfer people from ship-to-ship while at sea.

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I know what this is, but I expect that anyone here who served in the Navy can give a much better explanation. :)

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On our way to the ship's mess. You take the right, I'll go left.

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Grab us a seat.

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Note the "shoring material" stowed above. Its use is described here.

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I assume this is one of the larger open areas inside the ship. Whatever the case, it's a lot nicer than the lunchroom was at my old high school!

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Here's a brassy curiosity.

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Groups such as scouting organizations can spend a night aboard and eat in the mess. I just hope the food served is better than the heat lamp-warmed stuff I grabbed while I was here. :)

The stairs leading to the hatchway on the left will take us up to the weather deck. We'll be leaving the mess area soon after a few quick stops.

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Damned if I know what this is. It's in the mess and it looks like, well... No idea.

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Hm... This is just aft of the mess area.

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The ship's library is nearby.

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Life magazine presents "Bathing Suits '84"!

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Ship's chapel.

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As we come out on deck for the last time today, we can look forward and see the radar dish of the aft gun 5-inch director. Behind it, partially obscured, is the aft 16-inch gun director.

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If these caps are welded down over barrel openings, it's not obvious here. One thing is for sure: the black paint was applied less-than-neatly around the barrrel. :)

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Shell hoist mounted on the turret.

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Finally, a clear look at a rangefinder, here on the right side of the number three turret. In the background, the 16-inch gun director is more clearly visible.

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Left side of the turret.

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SH-2F Seasprite, just to the right of the number three turret's barrels.

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One of the rectangular-shaped, aft Tomahawk launchers can be seen just below the center of the image.

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The deck space that once saw float-planes launched from catapults was converted to a helicopter flight deck. It's now rented out for dinners or other events. The money benefits the ship, but the canopy here blocks the view and makes it hard to see the entire helipad.

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The only 40mm AA gun turret tubs that remain on the ship are found here, just aft of the helicopter deck on the ship's stern. This is the starboard side tub, now empty. In the distance, the two angled stacks of the forlorn ocean liner SS United States can be seen. (More about that ship here.)

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This gun tub, port side, was converted to a helicopter refueling station.

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One last look aft. Luzern is there, but I'm note sure if her cargo was being loaded or unloaded.

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I'm not sure what the purpose of these thin plates with the toothed edge is. You can see these plates on the deck in the next picture.

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Looking forward along the starboard side as we get ready to leave the ship. A winch can be seen at the center.

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The structure at the right, I believe, is used during refueling operations. Its base can be seen to the left in the photo above. The winch seen in the photo above is used here.

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Off the ship now, looking at the aft 5-inch gun director to the left and the aft 16-inch gun director to right of center.

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Back near where we started, and a final look at the 5-inch turrets on the starboard side.

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Until the next time.

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Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-21 08:54am
by Glass Pearl Player
FSTargetDrone wrote: There were no placards for these two:

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Not the slightest idea about the first one, but the second one could be a Bellerophon class dreadnought.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-21 12:25pm
by Simplicius
Second one looks like HMS Dreadnought to me. Same 12pdr arrangement, and Bellerophon had a large mainmast which Dreadnought lacked.

Were there any flags on the model in the first photo?

Edit: Never mind - I think the first photo is a model of Dante Alighieri.

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-21 03:58pm
by FSTargetDrone
Simplicius wrote:Second one looks like HMS Dreadnought to me. Same 12pdr arrangement, and Bellerophon had a large mainmast which Dreadnought lacked.

Were there any flags on the model in the first photo?

Edit: Never mind - I think the first photo is a model of Dante Alighieri.
Thanks. Sorry that picture is horribly blurred. I just noticed. :(

Re: Visiting Battleship USS New Jersey (PIC HEAVY)

Posted: 2009-08-21 04:20pm
by Raesene
Can this thread be moved moved to the history forum to be archived, at least until the pictures won't be shown anymore ?