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My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-19 03:48pm
by Davey
Here it is, a thirty-five piece assembly replica 1:1 scale bolt pistol (not counting the screws, pins, bearings, and springs). It is cartoonishly large, at a whopping 16.8 inches or 43 centimentres from butt-end to muzzle. Some manual finishing may be required. The bolt will slide back and forth and the magazine will snap in and out.

I don't know if I'll have time to make it this semester, or even my Fairbairn Sykes knife. But for now, please enjoy my renderings. I will release engineering drawings later.

Warning: High-resolution images are not suitable for small monitors or slow connections.

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The panel on this has been removed. Not shown are the four springs on the guide that will push the bolt back into place.
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Wireframe:
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Exploded assembly view.
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Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-19 09:11pm
by Aaron
Well, I wouldn't say cartoonishly large. There's some pistols available today longer then that, it sure as shit is bulky though. Looks good, I look forward to seeing the finished product.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-21 04:33am
by Bob the Gunslinger
I also look forward to seeing one. A lasgun would be even cooler, but bolt pistols are still pretty iconic.

I'm still surprised that GW never built any life sized plastic replicas, because I'm sure they'd sell a ton of them.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-23 03:16pm
by Steel
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:I also look forward to seeing one. A lasgun would be even cooler, but bolt pistols are still pretty iconic.

I'm still surprised that GW never built any life sized plastic replicas, because I'm sure they'd sell a ton of them.
Quite possibly could be beacuse of how huge they are.

They've had things like terminator and power armour made before along with storm bolters and boltguns for a (hilariously budget) couple of short films they made in the 90s(?). One was on youtube about an inquisitor going to a planet, and it had a trailer for another one with terminators going up against genestealers in a hive, but i never found that.

I'd assume that they really dont have the infrastructure for making that sort of thing in house as for their films they had some external prop company make the stuff, and I doubt any of their moulds go that big. Even their largest tank models are smaller than any of their weapons.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-25 11:58pm
by Davey
Thanks guys! Like I said I don't know for certain if I'll get any time for personal projects on our CNCs and our machinery, but I can hope.

On a more budget approach I could make the frame out of wood dowel and hard foam and coat it in a thick skin of modeller's putty, smoothed on with a brush and water. Then airbrush it (or maybe even use water-based spray-paint) and it'd be hard to tell the difference until you touched it. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of prop production, as Steel mentioned, does something similar for that; when you need something in a hurry that is passable and doesn't need to be too durable, foam, dowel and epoxy putty can be a pretty good combination.

The drawings themselves are coming along, but the frame is taking a long time and I want to get the frame done first, before anything else.
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:I also look forward to seeing one. A lasgun would be even cooler, but bolt pistols are still pretty iconic.
Hey, that is a great idea. I'll do a Laspistol CAD model next.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-08-26 12:18am
by Stark
Oh man, in a proper model like that they look so fucking stupid. A picatinny rail with like, 1cm grooves! A laser sight that doubles the size of the weapon! Nothing approaching balance or ergonomics!

Nice modelling though. I support any misuse of school resources.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-09-03 03:44am
by Bob the Gunslinger
Stark wrote:Oh man, in a proper model like that they look so fucking stupid.
Even the tiny models look fucking stupid--that's bolters for you. The older design looked even worse. The ammo clip attached to the gun about a bolt-shell length behind the end of the barrel. It looked ridiculous. The current bolters still look comically ridiculous, especially when an artist paints them "to scale" as if the person holding the bolter was a 28mm heroic-scale model capable of holding a gun massing half as much as he does, but compared to the original design, they're "trigger guards" gritty.

Re: My Bolt Pistol Design

Posted: 2009-09-05 01:45pm
by Davey
Bob's said it pretty well. I think part of the appeal of Warhammer 40k is how cartoony and silly it looks despite all the GRIMDARKNESS!!!11shift+1 they tack onto it.

I scaled these from some diagrams that'd been drawn from the books, so they should be similar to the ones portrayed in some of the art, give or take a bit.