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Military blunders (pic heavy)

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:24pm
by Shinova
Enjoy! :D First three are from this site: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/imperium/images3.html


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Sidewinder misfire

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Re: Military blunders (pic heavy)

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:28pm
by Anarchist Bunny
WOOOO! Hot tank on tank action!

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:30pm
by Warspite
I don't get the first one...

These are great for Photoshop.

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:35pm
by Dalton
Warspite wrote:I don't get the first one...
Looks like the plane missed the arrestor line.

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:35pm
by Montcalm
Warspite wrote:I don't get the first one...

These are great for Photoshop.
The first one is the pilot did`nt stop in time.

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:35pm
by Colonel Olrik
Yep, I think I'm going to move this to AP :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:35pm
by Dalton
EDIT: Damn you Olrik ;)

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:36pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
I can't even fathom how that last pic happened....

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:38pm
by Warspite
Dalton wrote:
Warspite wrote:I don't get the first one...
Looks like the plane missed the arrestor line.
I don't consider it a blunder in the class of the others... *shrugs*

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:39pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
The guy in the first pic looks funny, too. I bet hes thinking: "Uh.....shouldn't I have....stopped....by now?" *SPLASH*

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:41pm
by Colonel Olrik
What happens in the first pic case? Does he eject or can he lift off again? Or does he die crashing into the ocean?

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:44pm
by Enlightenment
Colonel Olrik wrote:What happens in the first pic case? Does he eject or can he lift off again? Or does he die crashing into the ocean?
Unless the pilot really screwed up he just comes around for another approach.

Posted: 2003-03-04 07:51pm
by DPDarkPrimus
LOL, nice... how recently did these all take place?

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:02pm
by Wicked Pilot
Colonel Olrik wrote:What happens in the first pic case? Does he eject or can he lift off again? Or does he die crashing into the ocean?
The plane is undergoing a normal takeoff. This particular picture was taken with an incredibly fast shutter speed, giving the allusion that the plane is standing still, when it is in fact going around 200mph.

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:07pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Wicked Pilot wrote:The plane is undergoing a normal takeoff. This particular picture was taken with an incredibly fast shutter speed, giving the allusion that the plane is standing still, when it is in fact going around 200mph.
Really? Could of fooled me. Still the guy in the plane looks worried to me. :)

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:15pm
by Shinova
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:The plane is undergoing a normal takeoff. This particular picture was taken with an incredibly fast shutter speed, giving the allusion that the plane is standing still, when it is in fact going around 200mph.
Really? Could of fooled me. Still the guy in the plane looks worried to me. :)
Wouldn't the pilot be unconscious at this point, or nearly unconscious?

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:22pm
by Wicked Pilot
Shinova wrote:Wouldn't the pilot be unconscious at this point, or nearly unconscious?
No, what would make you think that?

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:26pm
by Shinova
Wicked Pilot wrote:
Shinova wrote:Wouldn't the pilot be unconscious at this point, or nearly unconscious?
No, what would make you think that?
It's just that I read somewhere that when an aircraft launches from a carrier via catapult system, they're briefly exposed to extreme G's that cause them to lose consciousness for a moment.

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:30pm
by Kuja
ROFL.

That first sidewinder one is priceless. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-03-04 10:33pm
by Wicked Pilot
Shinova wrote:It's just that I read somewhere that when an aircraft launches from a carrier via catapult system, they're briefly exposed to extreme G's that cause them to lose consciousness for a moment.
I don't know the exact speeds involved, but a good ballpark figure is that the plane is accelerated from 0-200mph in 2s. This equates to about 4.5 Gs, which is nothing to a fighter pilot. Myself, as a general aviation pilot (but in very good physical shape), pulled more than that during an incentive flight in an AT-38B without much difficultly.

I think what you're refering to is that because of the forward acceleration, the pilot is unable to hold the stick without inadvertily pulling back, causing the aircraft to pitch up and stall. This is why he/she will always grab the handles on the front of the canopy while taking off, and only grab the controls when the plane is off the catapult. During the launch, the pilot is conscious, but not in control.


*Edit: Now that I think about it, you may be mistakenly refering to ejection seat launches.

Posted: 2003-03-04 11:06pm
by Howedar
Wicked Pilot wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:What happens in the first pic case? Does he eject or can he lift off again? Or does he die crashing into the ocean?
The plane is undergoing a normal takeoff. This particular picture was taken with an incredibly fast shutter speed, giving the allusion that the plane is standing still, when it is in fact going around 200mph.
Should not its catapult attachment thingy on the nose gear be down? I was thinking that it was probably a takeoff, but then I saw that.

Re: Military blunders (pic heavy)

Posted: 2003-03-04 11:58pm
by EmperorMing
Shinova wrote:Enjoy! :D First three are from this site:

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What is really scary is that me and a coworker recognise where this picture was taken: Ft Hood, along the north range road. Both of us have either been stationed there or trained there... :wink:

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:16am
by Wicked Pilot
Howedar wrote:Should not its catapult attachment thingy on the nose gear be down? I was thinking that it was probably a takeoff, but then I saw that.
I too was wondering about that. However, if it was a bolter then I would think that the tail hook should be down and visible.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:24am
by Enlightenment
Wicked Pilot wrote:I too was wondering about that. However, if it was a bolter then I would think that the tail hook should be down and visible.
Since it's supposed to be a military blunder, what if he 'boltered' as a result of trying to land without the hook down?

The pilot's hands don't seem to be on the cockpit rim handles (these are at head height, or are otherwise visible from outside the aircraft, correct?) which suggests that it isn't a takeoff.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:37am
by Wicked Pilot
On even further examination, this time on the ship itself, it appears that the vessel does not have two cats on the port side. If it did, then you would see two jagged ends sticking off the front of the deck, one end under the Hornet's flight path. The ship obviousily has none, therefore the picture in question must be of a bolter. As to where the tailhook is, that could be in just behind of and on top of the left gear strut.

Case closed, I hope.