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Evangelion vs 'Spear-Tank'

Posted: 2003-08-31 01:41am
by Utsanomiko
This idea came to mind due to Shep's half-joking claim (or maybe completely joking? Or maybe completely serrious?) that an Evangelion can be destroyed by a Russian tank equipped with a 'giant spear' on its turret.

Well, on behalf of MKSheppard and everyone else who have seen about 2 episodes of NGE but still don't know squat about it ( :P ), here's a likely outcome of such a battle:

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I considered animating the images so that the Eva simply responds by activating its AT field, knocking over and/or crushing the vehicle. But that's for another animation, I guess. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-08-31 02:01am
by DPDarkPrimus
*POKE*

"Cut that out!"

Posted: 2003-08-31 04:53am
by SHODAN
Well, that made me smile.

Posted: 2003-08-31 09:06am
by Darth Phoenix
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Who said size doesn't matter... :twisted:

Posted: 2003-08-31 07:43pm
by Darth Yoshi
Huh. That was interesting.

Posted: 2003-09-01 06:31am
by Companion Cube
Heh. :mrgreen: :lol:

Posted: 2003-09-01 11:33am
by Utsanomiko
Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.

*Wonders how far an Eva could throw a tank...* :twisted:

Posted: 2003-09-01 12:52pm
by The Yosemite Bear
wonders about the cube root problem.....

if it's that big it needs to wiegh how much and need how much energy just to move?

Posted: 2003-09-01 01:04pm
by Utsanomiko
The Yosemite Bear wrote:wonders about the cube root problem.....

if it's that big it needs to wiegh how much and need how much energy just to move?
Less energy than it used to jump in the middle of a sprint, that's for sure. :wink:

Posted: 2003-09-01 01:46pm
by The Yosemite Bear
No, the fact that while it takes you X amount of HP to move something 400 times your size would require 640,000,000 times the energy to do the same action!

Posted: 2003-09-01 01:58pm
by Utsanomiko
The Yosemite Bear wrote:No, the fact that while it takes you X amount of HP to move something 400 times your size would require 640,000,000 times the energy to do the same action!
Yes, I'm quite aware that it's requirement is cubed when scaled up (thought I don't know why you picked 400 as an example), I was just estimating that the energy it would need to throw a ~60-ton tank is less than the energy it uses to move its ~60-meter tall frame at a running pace. Just a qualitative guess, of course.

Anywho, has anyone got a request for another animation? I feel kinda up to something, and these Evangelion Chogokins are migthy poseable. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-09-01 01:58pm
by The Yosemite Bear
My math fuck up

your greatly understating, while I am overstating

Basically the cube/root factor is that everytime the mass doubles it takes 4-8 times the energy to accolmlish the same action. So if an EVA is that friggin big, it requires more power then I want to think about right now, just to move it's self....

Posted: 2003-09-01 02:52pm
by XaLEv
Darth Utsanomiko wrote: Anywho, has anyone got a request for another animation? I feel kinda up to something, and these Evangelion Chogokins are migthy poseable. :mrgreen:
I can think of a few things you could do with two Evangelions...

Posted: 2003-09-01 02:59pm
by Utsanomiko
XaLEv wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote: Anywho, has anyone got a request for another animation? I feel kinda up to something, and these Evangelion Chogokins are migthy poseable. :mrgreen:
I can think of a few things you could do with two Evangelions...
Dammit, I already told DPDarkPrimus; I'm not having them hump and squeeze eachother's asses! :x :roll:

Besides, just wait untill the Unit 00 is shiped and there'll be three Evas to do things with. :wink:

Posted: 2003-09-01 03:04pm
by XaLEv
Darth Utsanomiko wrote: Dammit, I already told DPDarkPrimus; I'm not having them hump and squeeze eachother's asses! :x :roll:

Besides, just wait untill the Unit 00 is shiped and there'll be three Evas to do things with. :wink:
You could have them fucking a tank. Make it look like a BDSM session.

Posted: 2003-09-01 03:14pm
by Utsanomiko
XaLEv wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote: Dammit, I already told DPDarkPrimus; I'm not having them hump and squeeze eachother's asses! :x :roll:

Besides, just wait untill the Unit 00 is shiped and there'll be three Evas to do things with. :wink:
You could have them fucking a tank. Make it look like a BDSM session.
It'd be hard to see what they were doing with it.. It'd look like they were smacking their crotch with a dark-green pocket dictionary. :)

I could make it unscaled using the models in the smae shot, but I'd rather not risk scratching the Chogokins on some lousy metal tank toy.

Posted: 2003-09-01 05:45pm
by Darth Yoshi
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.

*Wonders how far an Eva could throw a tank...* :twisted:
Well, considering that the Lance of Longinus was thrown clear of Earth's atmosphere . . . (did it make it to the moon or was it simply stuck in orbit?)

Posted: 2003-09-01 05:47pm
by Joe
Darth Yoshi wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.

*Wonders how far an Eva could throw a tank...* :twisted:
Well, considering that the Lance of Longinus was thrown clear of Earth's atmosphere . . . (did it make it to the moon or was it simply stuck in orbit?)
No, it made it to the moon.

Posted: 2003-09-02 08:59am
by Lord of the Farce
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.
A better way of comparing scale is to refer to the Jet Alone episode, using Misato as a yardstick.

Posted: 2003-09-02 11:47am
by Utsanomiko
Lord of the Farce wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.
A better way of comparing scale is to refer to the Jet Alone episode, using Misato as a yardstick.
Actually, I meant I just watched that scene and got a slightly better estimate (I already suspected that it was too large). Based on what I know of the Eva's height, and the comparative sizes of humans to the width of the Entry Plug and the roughly Eva's hands, I resized the tank, assuming a rough chasis size of 4m x8m. It might be more like 6x12 in this pic, but my sense of scale and perspective isn't the best. :oops:


Oh, and the Lance of Longinus probably is not a good example of the Eva's throwing abilities. Considering it has its own AT field (which it used to leave the moon and return to Earth in EoE), the Lance likely deployed to both leave Earth at escape velocity and destroy the 15th Angel in orbit. Oh well, there's always the scene of the Eva-02 lifting that 100+ meter-long naval ship out of the lake and throwing it to shore. :wink:

nukes vs. EVA discussion split.

Posted: 2003-09-02 04:21pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:
Lord of the Farce wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Ironically, it's possible the tank might be a bit too big. :D I rewatched the clip from End of Evangelion where one of the MP Evas lands onto an armored vehicle and crushes it with its entire foot.
A better way of comparing scale is to refer to the Jet Alone episode, using Misato as a yardstick.
Oh, and the Lance of Longinus probably is not a good example of the Eva's throwing abilities. Considering it has its own AT field (which it used to leave the moon and return to Earth in EoE), the Lance likely deployed to both leave Earth at escape velocity and destroy the 15th Angel in orbit. Oh well, there's always the scene of the Eva-02 lifting that 100+ meter-long naval ship out of the lake and throwing it to shore. :wink:
Nitpick: The Lance has it's own Anti-AT Field... :P

Oh, and the best way to determine the size of an Evangelion is to compare its height depicted in a scale sketch comparing it to the aircraft carrier Over the Rainbow, where a length for the vessel in the Newtype 100% Collection book.