Executor Diagram/Schematic/Plan views

McC · Post by **McC** » 2004-10-14 01:45am

Did anyone ever come across proportionally accurate orthorgraphic (i.e. top, side, front, back) views of Executor and/or her kin? As I understand it, the diagrams in the EGVV are inaccurate (and there's no top view either, which is sucky).

Much obliged.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-10-14 06:41am

no top view either but side and back view.

pic

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-10-14 08:28am

Um, Salm, that's exactly what McC specified that he didn't want: scematics from the EGVV.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-10-14 10:54am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Salm, that's exactly what McC specified that he didn't want: scematics from the EGVV.

hehe, ok, what is the EGVV?

McC · Post by **McC** » 2004-10-14 10:59am

Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. Book where that diagram comes from

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-10-14 11:23am

I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2004-10-14 11:24am

I might be able to help you, I have a few pics from a fan made mesh which is pretty damn good. If you give me your e-mail via private message or give me a place to upload them, I'll send them to you. They are quite good.

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2004-10-14 11:25am

Elheru Aran wrote:I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....

Here's the url:
http://www.merzo.net/index.html

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-10-14 12:43pm

That website rules.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-14 01:35pm

Elheru Aran wrote:I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....

http://www.merzo.net/

Edit: I still wish he hadn't caved to the fanboys clamoring for a shorter SSD. At least he linked to Saxton on the page...

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-10-14 02:00pm

He's also using the 45 km figure for the Vorlon Planet Killer, 1+km for the Narn warships, etc.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-14 04:39pm

160 km DSII?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-14 04:41pm

StormtrooperOfDeath wrote:160 km DSII?

Yeah, from what I understand, he used to have all the true sizes, but the fools from SW.com e-mailed him incessantly until he went with that idiot Pablo.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-10-14 04:42pm

Fuck. Any chance he might change them back?

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-10-15 01:22am

Did he have a 900 km DS II up there? Was there an entire page devoted to it alone?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-15 01:23am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Did he have a 900 km DS II up there? Was there an entire page devoted to it alone?

No, it was just on the 2000x page, with the moon for comparison.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-10-15 04:18am

If I may direct you all to the ASVS Fanfic Archive's Multimedia Section, where there are a number of size comparison charts with true sizes.

Chad Wilson's size chart in particular has a nice silhouette view of the Executor, corrected from the EGVV version.

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2004-10-15 11:46am

Here's an image to a set of orthographic views, plus a comparison to a bog cube for fun.
Link

Don't inline large pictures-GAT

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-10-15 04:25pm

Guy N. Cognito wrote:Here's a link to a set of orthographic views, plus a comparison to a bog cube for fun.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/ ... posted.jpg

Where is that from?

Guy N. Cognito · Post by **Guy N. Cognito** » 2004-10-15 04:29pm

That is some one's model, I grabbed some of the images because they were just too good. I hav emore but none of tehm are orthoscopic. C'est la vie.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-16 04:30pm

A guy called Anthony Tully made some drawings of the Executor in 1984 (according to Tully, Saxton saluted his drawings in 1996). Remember that they are hand-drawn, but they are accurate and have the correct number of engines etc.:

Dorsal, side and ventral view: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt1.gif

Stern and bow: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt2.gif

Link to the page: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ExecHist.ht
His page is great, and it also deals with some of the fallacies surrounding the scaling and length of the Executor. He estimates that the ship is in the range of 17,6 to 20,8 kilometers long (11 to 13 times longer than an ISD), about the same figures as dr. Saxton.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-10-16 05:32pm

Um, Mange? Why the +s?

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-10-16 05:50pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Mange? Why the +s?

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.

Abusing flashback suppressors again? Lemme fix.

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt1.gif

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt2.gif

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ExecHist.ht

And those are Really Fucking Awesome drawings too!

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-10-16 06:01pm

Bingo. That's the one I remember from Saxton's site... and yep... awesome stuff. I believe he was working directly from movie visuals, perhaps from photos of the model... wonder how he'd do with the DVDs? they would definitely be kickass, no question about it...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-10-16 06:27pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Mange? Why the +s?

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.

He always does that, on every link he posts.