Page 1 of 2

Executor Diagram/Schematic/Plan views

Posted: 2004-10-14 01:45am
by McC
Did anyone ever come across proportionally accurate orthorgraphic (i.e. top, side, front, back) views of Executor and/or her kin? As I understand it, the diagrams in the EGVV are inaccurate (and there's no top view either, which is sucky).

Much obliged.

Posted: 2004-10-14 06:41am
by salm
no top view either but side and back view.

pic

Posted: 2004-10-14 08:28am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Um, Salm, that's exactly what McC specified that he didn't want: scematics from the EGVV.

Posted: 2004-10-14 10:54am
by salm
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Salm, that's exactly what McC specified that he didn't want: scematics from the EGVV.
hehe, ok, what is the EGVV? :?:

Posted: 2004-10-14 10:59am
by McC
Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. Book where that diagram comes from ;)

Posted: 2004-10-14 11:23am
by Elheru Aran
I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....

Posted: 2004-10-14 11:24am
by Guy N. Cognito
I might be able to help you, I have a few pics from a fan made mesh which is pretty damn good. If you give me your e-mail via private message or give me a place to upload them, I'll send them to you. They are quite good.

Posted: 2004-10-14 11:25am
by Guy N. Cognito
Elheru Aran wrote:I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....
Here's the url:
http://www.merzo.net/index.html

Posted: 2004-10-14 12:43pm
by Kuja
That website rules.

Posted: 2004-10-14 01:35pm
by Rogue 9
Elheru Aran wrote:I suppose you could always try Saxton's site? Aside from that, I seem to remember this one where there was this guy who tried to make scale diagrams of the SSD, but I'll be damned if I have the URL... wouldn't be surprised if you could find a link in Saxton, though.

Aside-- I seem to remember this rather cool website that had scale pictures of all the ships of sci-fi-- from X-Wing through to ID4 mothership, everything in scale to each other-- biggest objects being half the size of the moon (which was included for comparison)? Something like "So-and-so's Ship Comparison Site"....
http://www.merzo.net/

Edit: I still wish he hadn't caved to the fanboys clamoring for a shorter SSD. At least he linked to Saxton on the page...

Posted: 2004-10-14 02:00pm
by fgalkin
He's also using the 45 km figure for the Vorlon Planet Killer, 1+km for the Narn warships, etc.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Posted: 2004-10-14 04:39pm
by The Cleric
160 km DSII? :wtf:

Posted: 2004-10-14 04:41pm
by Rogue 9
StormtrooperOfDeath wrote:160 km DSII? :wtf:
Yeah, from what I understand, he used to have all the true sizes, but the fools from SW.com e-mailed him incessantly until he went with that idiot Pablo.

Posted: 2004-10-14 04:42pm
by The Cleric
:banghead: Fuck. Any chance he might change them back?

Posted: 2004-10-15 01:22am
by IRG CommandoJoe
Did he have a 900 km DS II up there? Was there an entire page devoted to it alone? :P

Posted: 2004-10-15 01:23am
by Rogue 9
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Did he have a 900 km DS II up there? Was there an entire page devoted to it alone? :P
No, it was just on the 2000x page, with the moon for comparison. :P

Posted: 2004-10-15 04:18am
by Crayz9000
If I may direct you all to the ASVS Fanfic Archive's Multimedia Section, where there are a number of size comparison charts with true sizes.

Chad Wilson's size chart in particular has a nice silhouette view of the Executor, corrected from the EGVV version.

Posted: 2004-10-15 11:46am
by Guy N. Cognito
Here's an image to a set of orthographic views, plus a comparison to a bog cube for fun.
Link


Don't inline large pictures-GAT

Posted: 2004-10-15 04:25pm
by Crayz9000
Guy N. Cognito wrote:Here's a link to a set of orthographic views, plus a comparison to a bog cube for fun.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/ ... posted.jpg
Where is that from?

Posted: 2004-10-15 04:29pm
by Guy N. Cognito
That is some one's model, I grabbed some of the images because they were just too good. I hav emore but none of tehm are orthoscopic. C'est la vie.

Posted: 2004-10-16 04:30pm
by Mange
A guy called Anthony Tully made some drawings of the Executor in 1984 (according to Tully, Saxton saluted his drawings in 1996). Remember that they are hand-drawn, but they are accurate and have the correct number of engines etc.:

Dorsal, side and ventral view: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt1.gif

Stern and bow: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt2.gif

Link to the page: http://home.flash.net/~atully/ExecHist.ht
His page is great, and it also deals with some of the fallacies surrounding the scaling and length of the Executor. He estimates that the ship is in the range of 17,6 to 20,8 kilometers long (11 to 13 times longer than an ISD), about the same figures as dr. Saxton.

Posted: 2004-10-16 05:32pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Um, Mange? Why the +s? :|

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.

Posted: 2004-10-16 05:50pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Mange? Why the +s? :|

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.
Abusing flashback suppressors again? Lemme fix.

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt1.gif

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ssdapt2.gif

http://home.flash.net/~atully/ExecHist.ht

And those are Really Fucking Awesome drawings too! :shock: :D

Posted: 2004-10-16 06:01pm
by Elheru Aran
Bingo. That's the one I remember from Saxton's site... and yep... awesome stuff. I believe he was working directly from movie visuals, perhaps from photos of the model... wonder how he'd do with the DVDs? they would definitely be kickass, no question about it...

Posted: 2004-10-16 06:27pm
by Rogue 9
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Um, Mange? Why the +s? :|

I don't see any sort of security risks that require breaking the links.
He always does that, on every link he posts.