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STGOD Assault Weapons

Posted: 2005-01-31 03:45pm
by Thirdfain
I spent a little while monkeying around in Paint, turning the FAMAS into the FD-GIA. Take a look:

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you all like?

-edit- I turned the 42b into a Bullpup design to distribute the weight better, to counterbalance the grenade launcher, since as an energy weapon, the location of the magazine is not terribly imporant so long as it's out of the way and can be switched rapidly.

Posted: 2005-01-31 04:45pm
by Ma Deuce
Not bad, but that was definately derived from a FAMAS, not a FN-FAL...

Posted: 2005-01-31 04:50pm
by Thirdfain
Erk, my bad. Yes, indeed, that was a FAMAS. I'll fix that up...

Posted: 2005-01-31 11:11pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
I know this sounds a little too nit-picky, but the handle was probably better off being square than triangular. A 90 degree angle would both stop it from slipping from your grasp and give you a better grip on the handle. But with the angle you changed it too, your fingers would slip in between the narrow crack and get caught there, making it more difficult to grasp. Also if you had to pick it up by the handle, it would be more awkward gripping it by the slanted part, since the barrel would tip up.

Posted: 2005-01-31 11:27pm
by Thirdfain
Good point. I'm working on an improved model, with a rebuilt forewards barrel and better handle.

Posted: 2005-01-31 11:39pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Look forward to seeing it. :D

Posted: 2005-02-01 02:58pm
by Thirdfain
I think this is a lot better looking, even the handle.

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Posted: 2005-02-01 03:02pm
by Rogue 9
Check out them red Xs!
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Posted: 2005-02-01 03:03pm
by Crayz9000
Your DNS server apparently isn't working.

Posted: 2005-02-01 03:06pm
by Thirdfain
Hrmmm!
I can see it just fine... Let's see.

Posted: 2005-02-01 03:09pm
by Thirdfain
Image

Thanks to Imageshack.

That should work... Sorry, would some mod delete my previous post?

Posted: 2005-02-01 03:36pm
by Crayz9000
I was actually referring to Rogue. I can see it just fine.

Posted: 2005-02-01 03:40pm
by Rogue 9
Well, I see them now. I dunno.

Posted: 2005-02-03 02:19am
by IRG CommandoJoe
Awesome. Looks much better. Although I think an even longer handle would be best. I say this because then you could still use the handle to pick the rifle up even with a scope attached to it. Right now, the handle is too short to use with the scope attached.

Posted: 2005-02-03 12:10pm
by Beowulf
All this talk about the carry handle doesn't make much sense, since you don't actually carry it by the handle. You don't have enough control over where the muzzle is pointing when holding it with just the handle. On the M16, for example, you'd normally carry it with the fingers under the barrel in front of the magwell, and the thumb sticking into the carry handle(assuming that it isn't a flat-top). This provides a lot of control over where the muzzle is pointing, which means you aren't as likely to accidentally shoot your friend.

Posted: 2005-02-03 01:41pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
When you are knocked over by one of numerous combat dangers (explosions, bullets, diving to avoid something, debris, etc.) and your gun falls out of your grasp, do you want a handle that you can easily use to snatch up your rifle with a tight grip, or do you want to have a shitty grip on it by having to put your fingers around the scope? I am well aware of the fact that you don't normally carry it by the handle, but the handle would be very nice in a combat situation such as I just described. Does it make much sense to have the scope block the handle so you cannot use it?

Posted: 2005-02-03 02:13pm
by Deathstalker
Since this is an energy weapon, move the magazine somewhere else. Have it go into the stock or clip to the top.

Posted: 2005-02-03 06:23pm
by Darksider
Looks Cool.

Nice to get an image of the weapons that Krytosian troops will be fighting aga.....um, along side of..........

Posted: 2005-02-03 07:10pm
by General Zod
looks okay, but isn't the trigger a wee bit too far away from the grip? looks like it'd be extremely awkward to shoot for that reason.

Posted: 2005-02-04 01:23pm
by Thirdfain
Darth_Zod wrote:looks okay, but isn't the trigger a wee bit too far away from the grip? looks like it'd be extremely awkward to shoot for that reason.
Ask the guys who designed the FAMAS, I didn't mess with the trigger's location :P

Since this is an energy weapon, move the magazine somewhere else. Have it go into the stock or clip to the top.
I like the look of the magazine, and I don't think I'll mess with it.

As for the issues with the carrying handle, is not the M-16's handle about that length?

Posted: 2005-02-04 03:25pm
by Lord Revan
Well the only gun I've ever carried that had handle was finnish army 7.62 KvKK 62 (KvKK=LMG) (I didn't work with weapons very much as I was in un-armed service(I started in regural service) the 7.62 Rk 62 (derived from the AK-74) didn't have handle and I didn't carry it any differently then the MG . In my experience an handle is unessery in rifle (it also makes aiming harder).

Posted: 2005-02-06 07:33am
by The Yosemite Bear
fenari fusion gun, please?

Posted: 2005-02-06 03:03pm
by Thirdfain
The Yosemite Bear wrote:fenari fusion gun, please?
I'd be glad to, but I have zero idea what a Fenari fusion gun would look like, besides the fact it'd be built for something the size of a Crinos werewolf...

Posted: 2005-02-06 05:17pm
by The Yosemite Bear
microwave laser with backpack nuke

Posted: 2005-02-06 10:48pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Thirdfain wrote:As for the issues with the carrying handle, is not the M-16's handle about that length?
I've no idea, but the fact of the matter is that if you have a handle with a scope attached to it, it renders the handle nigh useless. Why not simply lengthen the handle to preserve its function when a scope is attached?