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Iraq Vader Helmets...

Posted: 2005-05-07 11:00am
by Grand Moff Yenchin
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They disabled the right click so I can't show some here.

Hilarious. :lol:

Posted: 2005-05-07 11:05am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Interesting...

Posted: 2005-05-07 11:07am
by Gandalf
So Saddam's troops were using these?

Posted: 2005-05-07 11:37am
by Montcalm
First image linked cause its too large

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Posted: 2005-05-07 11:53am
by HemlockGrey
The right-click works fine in Opera.

And...those don't look very protective to me.

Posted: 2005-05-07 12:06pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
They're probably more symbolic, if anything. It's just weird that they look almost exactly like Darth Vader's helmet. I wonder how old the design is.

Posted: 2005-05-07 01:53pm
by JME2
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They're probably more symbolic, if anything. It's just weird that they look almost exactly like Darth Vader's helmet. I wonder how old the design is.
Perhaps they knew that the American soldiers that might invade someday had been scarred to death as children by a certain Sith Lord and were hoping to duplicate it as a psychological weapon... 8)

Anyway, to be serious, the kabuto helmet may have influenced this or it may have been Vader; I'm equally curious to know the age of these helmets.

Posted: 2005-05-07 02:04pm
by Alyeska
Silly website thinking it can prevent right clicking. Firefox doesn't care and lets you righclick. 8)

Posted: 2005-05-07 02:15pm
by Ra
All the dudes wearing these helmets are wearing black, obviously. I think they were playing ninjas are something. Were they some kind of "elite" (:lol:) unit, or was this being issued to all their troops, just not all acquired in time?
Like JME2 noted, it seems more influenced by the Samarai helmets, which, by the way, was the inspiration for Vader's helmet as well, IIRC.
- Ra

Posted: 2005-05-07 03:25pm
by kheegster
Black helmets for desert combat. Rich.

Posted: 2005-05-07 03:33pm
by Ma Deuce
I bet those guys are Saddam's Fedayeen militia...

Posted: 2005-05-07 05:19pm
by Robert Walper
Well, there can no longer be any doubt they're the bad guys...

Posted: 2005-05-07 07:21pm
by salm
To enable rightclick in MS IE either turn off java script or rightclick, press ok on the message box and then hit the menu button. That´s the funny button next to Alt Gr that you´ve allways wondered what it´s good for.

Posted: 2005-05-08 12:19am
by Master of Ossus
Vader's helmet was based on a WWII Nazi helmet, or so the production notes lead me to believe. It's not really surprising that some of those helmets survived into the modern era.

Posted: 2005-05-08 12:41am
by Spanky The Dolphin
I think the connection to the Nazi Stahlhelm is mostly superficial at best, since Ralph McQuarrie himself said that he based Vader's helmet on samurai kabuto helms, as JME2 mentioned. I've personally never heard of the Stahlhelm connection before.

Additionally, Lucas has said at least once that he based the character of Darth Vader on the villian Hakaider from the 1972 Japanese live action TV series Android Kikaider (Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ), which he saw at least a portion of when visiting Japan in the early 1970s.

http://www.hlj.com/product/KYDMS11

Posted: 2005-05-08 12:58am
by Utsanomiko
Ma Deuce wrote:I bet those guys are Saddam's Fedayeen militia...
Volunteer Fedayeen, according to Babelfish's translation of the page.

It mentions a few times that the Iraqi helmet's dimensions are exactly based on the Darth Vader design. Or at least from what I picked up from the description. It also said out it's made out of 1/4" fiberglass and there's not much info on its history.

Posted: 2005-05-08 01:12am
by Montcalm
About the Vader style helmet,i remember when about ten years ago on the news they shown the new french fireman's helmet which they compared to Vader's helmet.

Posted: 2005-05-08 01:51am
by Nephtys
They really, really need facemasks with that helmet. Even a gas mask will do...

Posted: 2005-05-08 02:28am
by Ra
Utsanomiko wrote:Volunteer Fedayeen, according to Babelfish's translation of the page.

It mentions a few times that the Iraqi helmet's dimensions are exactly based on the Darth Vader design. Or at least from what I picked up from the description. It also said out it's made out of 1/4" fiberglass and there's not much info on its history.
1/4" fiberglass? That's not much protection. Good for stopping low-velocity shrapnel and little else. The only redeeming quality is the fact that it covers the back of the neck, something just about all military helmets leave exposed. My take is that the Iraqis were just going for a distinctive look, kinda like the Nazis did in WWII. Form over fuction. After all, weren't the Fedayeen SS-wannabes?
- Ra

Posted: 2005-05-08 11:06am
by Enigma
salm wrote:To enable rightclick in MS IE either turn off java script or rightclick, press ok on the message box and then hit the menu button. That´s the funny button next to Alt Gr that you´ve allways wondered what it´s good for.
You don't need to. Just hover the mouse over the pic until the box appears to let you save\print\email\whatever the image.

Posted: 2005-05-09 05:34am
by JointStrikeFighter
Link worked fin in IE for me