Scottish Parliament Wins Prize

AMP: sci-fi art, regular art, pictures, photos, comics, music, etc.

Moderator: Beowulf

User avatar
Admiral Valdemar
Outside Context Problem
Posts: 31572
Joined: 2002-07-04 07:17pm
Location: UK

Scottish Parliament Wins Prize

Post by Admiral Valdemar »

BBC News wrote: Top prize for Parliament building

The Scottish Parliament building, which opened three years late and was massively over budget, has won the Stirling Prize for architecture.


It beat five other contenders including a library and new factories built for BMW and the McLaren Formula One team.

The prize honours the building which has made the biggest contribution to British architecture in the past year.

Last year the £20,000 award was won by the London's "Gherkin", which was designed by Lord Foster.

'Remarkable statement'

Foster and Partners had hoped to win the prize for the second year running for their design for the McLaren Technology Centre in Woking, Surrey.

The judges described the building, which houses laboratories, testing facilities and electronic workshops in a 50-acre site,as "breathtaking".

But they chose the "remarkable architectural statement" of the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh instead.

The building, designed by EMBT/RMJM Ltd, caused controversy by opening three years late and being 10 times over budget at £431m.

Its architect, the Spaniard Enric Miralles, died in July 2000, but his widow Benedetta Tagliabue attended the awards at the Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh.

The judges said the building "manifests itself as an attempt at an organic transition between the city and the drama of the Scottish countryside surrounding it" - an effect helped by its landscaping.

"The ability of both the design and construction teams to realise a building of this complexity is truly remarkable," they said.

The Scottish Parliament's Presiding Officer George Reid, speaking after the event, said the award honoured all those involved in the creation of the Parliament.

"The judges have decided that Holyrood is not just a working legislature but a work of art constructed on a world-heritage site where the history and land of Scotland fuse together," he said.

Shortlisted buildings

The Parliament was one of six buildings shortlisted for the award which recognises the building which has made the greatest contribution to British architecture in the past year.

Other contenders included the £8m Jubilee Library in Brighton, which had been the joint favourite with McLaren's headquarters.

Designed by Bennetts Associates with Lomax Cassidy, it was said to be "a civic building of importance".

The judges described its glass façade as "imposing, dissolving at night to expose the powerful library interior".

The second car factory among the shortlist was the BMW Central Building in Leipzig, Germany, designed by Zaha Hadid Architects.

The judges praised its "nice conceit of half-finished Beamers gliding above your head on elevated conveyor tracks, making their silent stately way between the body shop and the paint shop".

The Lewis Glucksman Gallery at University College, Cork, by O'Donnell + Tuomey was praised as "almost picturesque".

The sixth contender, the Fawood Children's Centre in Harlesden, north-west London, was designed by Alsop Design Ltd.

It was called a "fine example of the beneficial effects of good architecture".

Previous winners include the Gateshead Millennium Bridge and a multi-coloured London dance centre.

The prize is named after the architect Sir James Stirling, who died in 1992.
It may have cost a few truckloads of taxpayers' money, taken many more years to build and brought embarassment on the SMPs to sit within it, but it sure sounds like it's good at something.
HemlockGrey
Fucking Awesome
Posts: 13834
Joined: 2002-07-04 03:21pm

Post by HemlockGrey »

Well it looks like there's some fundemental differences of opinion between myself and the Stirling Prize commission, because I think the building looks like shit.
The End of Suburbia
"If more cars are inevitable, must there not be roads for them to run on?"
-Robert Moses

"The Wire" is the best show in the history of television. Watch it today.
User avatar
Glocksman
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7233
Joined: 2002-09-03 06:43pm
Location: Mr. Five by Five

Post by Glocksman »

HemlockGrey wrote:Well it looks like there's some fundemental differences of opinion between myself and the Stirling Prize commission, because I think the building looks like shit.
That's because you're an uncultured American who just doesn't understand modern art, architecture, and culture. :P

For the humor impaired, that's a joking comment. I think it looks like total ass myself. Was the architect on LSD?
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier

Oderint dum metuant
User avatar
Crown
NARF
Posts: 10615
Joined: 2002-07-11 11:45am
Location: In Transit ...

Post by Crown »

It looks like a vagina ... I'm sold. 8)
Image
Η ζωή, η ζωή εδω τελειώνει!
"Science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14" strap-on" - Masuka 'Dexter'
"Angela is not the woman you think she is Gabriel, she's done terrible things"
"So have I, and I'm going to do them all to you." - Sylar to Arthur 'Heroes'
User avatar
Wicked Pilot
Moderator Emeritus
Posts: 8972
Joined: 2002-07-05 05:45pm

Post by Wicked Pilot »

I think it looks like something, that when it goes out of style, is gonna look heinous.
The most basic assumption about the world is that it does not contradict itself.
User avatar
LordShaithis
Redshirt
Posts: 3179
Joined: 2002-07-08 11:02am
Location: Michigan

Post by LordShaithis »

By my calculations, if the building wins this award every year through the year 23,555 AD, the prize money will recoup the entire construction cost! Woohoo!
If Religion and Politics were characters on a soap opera, Religion would be the one that goes insane with jealousy over Politics' intimate relationship with Reality, and secretly murder Politics in the night, skin the corpse, and run around its apartment wearing the skin like a cape shouting "My votes now! All votes for me! Wheeee!" -- Lagmonster
User avatar
Ma Deuce
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4359
Joined: 2004-02-02 03:22pm
Location: Whitby, Ontario

Post by Ma Deuce »

Image
Here is the whole building, if anyone's interested. I'm still going to get on the on the boat that isn't sold on the design: Godammit, government buildings are supposed to be imposing, a symbol not only of the power they represent (though admittadly that doesn't apply to the Scottish parliament :wink:), but also of the bloated bureaucracies they house. Preferably, they should also have neo-classical or neo-gothic architecture.
Image
The M2HB: The Greatest Machinegun Ever Made.
HAB: Crew-Served Weapons Specialist


"Making fun of born-again Christians is like hunting dairy cows with a high powered rifle and scope." --P.J. O'Rourke

"A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --J.S. Mill
weemadando
SMAKIBBFB
Posts: 19195
Joined: 2002-07-28 12:30pm
Contact:

Post by weemadando »

So, where does Australia's "nuclear bunker" parliament house sit on your design scale then Deuce?
User avatar
RedImperator
Roosevelt Republican
Posts: 16465
Joined: 2002-07-11 07:59pm
Location: Delaware
Contact:

Post by RedImperator »

Absolutely no regard for the architectural history and tradition of Scotland, the Westminster system, or democracy, pointless shapes, heinous colors, guaranteed to be considered ugly as sin by the vast majority of the taxpayers who paid for it. Disgustingly typical of postwar architecture.
Image
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963
X-Ray Blues
User avatar
SirNitram
Rest in Peace, Black Mage
Posts: 28367
Joined: 2002-07-03 04:48pm
Location: Somewhere between nowhere and everywhere

Post by SirNitram »

I'd not mind the thing if it even tried to blend in with the skyline. Ugh.
Manic Progressive: A liberal who violently swings from anger at politicos to despondency over them.

Out Of Context theatre: Ron Paul has repeatedly said he's not a racist. - Destructinator XIII on why Ron Paul isn't racist.

Shadowy Overlord - BMs/Black Mage Monkey - BOTM/Jetfire - Cybertron's Finest/General Miscreant/ASVS/Supermoderator Emeritus

Debator Classification: Trollhunter
weemadando
SMAKIBBFB
Posts: 19195
Joined: 2002-07-28 12:30pm
Contact:

Post by weemadando »

Image

Image

The earth-covered bunker known as our houses of parliament.
Falkenhayn
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2106
Joined: 2003-05-29 05:08pm
Contact:

Post by Falkenhayn »

Hahahahah! Scottish Parliament looks like a Po-Mo Appartement complex! It also bears a more than passing resemblance to the dormitories of SUNY Binghamton. Good job Scotland.
User avatar
Ma Deuce
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4359
Joined: 2004-02-02 03:22pm
Location: Whitby, Ontario

Post by Ma Deuce »

weemadando wrote:So, where does Australia's "nuclear bunker" parliament house sit on your design scale then Deuce?
Not bad, actually: The architecture of the facades is a little plain, but still have a nice neo-classical feel to them, and overall it's definately far, far better than that post-modern silliness of the new Scottish parliament house. I actually like the bunker-like look imparted by the grass slopes extended over the roof, though I must say that hollow-pyramid flagpole looks a little out of place. But anyway, some older government houses like Westminster Palace, the US Capitol, the Canadian Parliament building, and the Reichstag still get higher marks from me...
Image
The M2HB: The Greatest Machinegun Ever Made.
HAB: Crew-Served Weapons Specialist


"Making fun of born-again Christians is like hunting dairy cows with a high powered rifle and scope." --P.J. O'Rourke

"A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --J.S. Mill
User avatar
Edi
Dragonlord
Dragonlord
Posts: 12461
Joined: 2002-07-11 12:27am
Location: Helsinki, Finland

Post by Edi »

That's fucking ugly, that is. The Scottish Parliament house, not the Australian one, which I rather like.

What do you guys think of the Finnish House of Parliament?

Image

Edi
Warwolf Urban Combat Specialist

Why is it so goddamned hard to get little assholes like you to admit it when you fuck up? Is it pride? What gives you the right to have any pride?
–Darth Wong to vivftp

GOP message? Why don't they just come out of the closet: FASCISTS R' US –Patrick Degan

The GOP has a problem with anyone coming out of the closet. –18-till-I-die
User avatar
brianeyci
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 9815
Joined: 2004-09-26 05:36pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Post by brianeyci »

Edi wrote:Image

Edi
That is what I think of when I think of Government buildings : solid, imposing, powerful and most importantly timeless. It looks like it could last a billion years.

Brian
darthdavid
Pathetic Attention Whore
Posts: 5470
Joined: 2003-02-17 12:04pm
Location: Bat Country!

Post by darthdavid »

That's not a capitol mate, now this is a capitol building.
Image
User avatar
Glocksman
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7233
Joined: 2002-09-03 06:43pm
Location: Mr. Five by Five

Post by Glocksman »

Classical style buildings (like the Finnish and US capitol buildings) practically make you feel like a Senator when you just walk up the steps to enter them.
The Scottish Parliament building looks more like a cubist architect's idea of a prison than a legislature. :P
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier

Oderint dum metuant
User avatar
Faram
Bastard Operator from Hell
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-07-04 07:39am
Location: Fighting Polarbears

Post by Faram »

I think the Swedish parlament building has you beat!

Image
[img=right]http://hem.bredband.net/b217293/warsaban.gif[/img]

"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. ... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. ... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?" -Epicurus


Fear is the mother of all gods.

Nature does all things spontaneously, by herself, without the meddling of the gods. -Lucretius
User avatar
Stuart Mackey
Drunken Kiwi Editor of the ASVS Press
Posts: 5946
Joined: 2002-07-04 12:28am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Post by Stuart Mackey »

It looks bloody awfull. Scotland has some excellent archetecture and this abortion was the best they could come up with?. In short, it will be well suited to its inhabitants :)
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"

Jean Omer Marie Gabriel Monnet
--------------
User avatar
Gandalf
SD.net White Wizard
Posts: 16354
Joined: 2002-09-16 11:13pm
Location: A video store in Australia

Post by Gandalf »

That Swedish building is bloody beautiful. Though it looks like something out of Civ.
"Oh no, oh yeah, tell me how can it be so fair
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"

- A.B. Original, Report to the Mist

"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
- George Carlin
User avatar
Oberleutnant
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1585
Joined: 2002-07-06 04:44pm
Location: Finland

Post by Oberleutnant »

I was going to say that don't judge the new Scottish Parliament house by its exterior, but having looked at photos of the interior, I have to say I'm unimpressed. How come they ended up using wood as the primary material? The design bears no whatsoever relation to the Scottish identity. If there's a connection, it's well hidden. Real shame since contemporary British architecture is probably the best in the world.

Interior photos
"Thousands of years ago cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this."
User avatar
Dahak
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7292
Joined: 2002-10-29 12:08pm
Location: Admiralty House, Landing, Manticore
Contact:

Post by Dahak »

It looks...special :D

And the Australian one gets bonus points for strangeness. :D

I, myself, like the Reichstag. Imposing, yet a certain elegance :)
Image
Great Dolphin Conspiracy - Chatter box
"Implications: we have been intercepted deliberately by a means unknown, for a purpose unknown, and transferred to a place unknown by a form of intelligence unknown. Apart from the unknown, everything is obvious." ZORAC
GALE Force Euro Wimp
Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.
Image
User avatar
Ace Pace
Hardware Lover
Posts: 8456
Joined: 2002-07-07 03:04am
Location: Wasting time instead of money
Contact:

Post by Ace Pace »

I like them all.

I rather like the Knesset

Image

Front
Brotherhood of the Bear | HAB | Mess | SDnet archivist |
User avatar
Zed Snardbody
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2449
Joined: 2002-07-11 11:41pm

Post by Zed Snardbody »

Dahak wrote:It looks...special :D

And the Australian one gets bonus points for strangeness. :D

I, myself, like the Reichstag. Imposing, yet a certain elegance :)
Now that is a fine looking building, if a bit "busy" on the outside.

Image
The Zen of Not Fucking Up.
User avatar
Admiral Valdemar
Outside Context Problem
Posts: 31572
Joined: 2002-07-04 07:17pm
Location: UK

Post by Admiral Valdemar »

The nearest city to me (and England's newest one to have city status to boot) has a great municipal hall.

Image
Post Reply