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Russian Stealth: MiG 37 Ferret and Sukhoi S-37 Berkut

Posted: 2002-12-10 11:46am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
MiG 37 Ferret (purely hypothetical but sweet nonetheless!)
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Taken from http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_37/mig_37.htm

Sukhoi S-37 Berkut
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Taken from http://www.military.cz/russia/air/suchoj/s_32/s_32.htm

Note: Russian Translator needed. Otherwise, SWEET Fighters!

Posted: 2002-12-10 08:19pm
by Howedar
I used to have that MiG-37 model.

Posted: 2002-12-10 10:12pm
by The Dark
Since when is the Golden Eagle stealth (Berkut for those who insist on using the non-translated name)? Unless they've actually got that active stealth plasma system working, the FSW design should ruin any chance it has of being stealthy.

Posted: 2002-12-10 10:14pm
by Kuja
Interesting design.

Posted: 2002-12-10 11:21pm
by Zaku-chan
It's pretty flat; probably presents a very small target profile.

Posted: 2002-12-11 02:25am
by Crayz9000
Howedar wrote:I used to have that MiG-37 model.
IIRC, they came up with the concept for the MiG-37 in response to the Lockheed YF-22. They just don't have the resources to actually build it.

Posted: 2002-12-11 04:36am
by The Dark
Crayz9000 wrote:
Howedar wrote:I used to have that MiG-37 model.
IIRC, they came up with the concept for the MiG-37 in response to the Lockheed YF-22. They just don't have the resources to actually build it.
Is that what used to be the MiG 1.3 project? If so, it was designed as a counter to the YF-22 (even had the nickname "Raptor Killer"). Supposedly slightly faster and more maneuverable, but without quite as much stealth.

Posted: 2002-12-11 04:41am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
The Dark wrote:Since when is the Golden Eagle stealth (Berkut for those who insist on using the non-translated name)? Unless they've actually got that active stealth plasma system working, the FSW design should ruin any chance it has of being stealthy.
Just what I was thinking... it looks like a Su-27 and an X29's love child (in other words a SWEET Fighter!), not anything particularly stealthy at all. I still wanna drive one.[/img]

Posted: 2002-12-11 05:21pm
by Raptor 597
Interesting aerodynamics, I read somewhere, maybe in Jane's a few ears ago backward wings flew better.

Posted: 2002-12-11 05:29pm
by Crayz9000
Captain Lennox wrote:Interesting aerodynamics, I read somewhere, maybe in Jane's a few ears ago backward wings flew better.
Delta wings are good for speed, because of their aerodynamic profile. Forward-swept wings give excellent maneuverability, but sacrifice top speed. Most fighters, like the F-15, are kind of a tradeoff between maneuverability and speed.

Posted: 2002-12-11 10:31pm
by The Dark
Crayz9000 wrote:
Captain Lennox wrote:Interesting aerodynamics, I read somewhere, maybe in Jane's a few ears ago backward wings flew better.
Delta wings are good for speed, because of their aerodynamic profile. Forward-swept wings give excellent maneuverability, but sacrifice top speed. Most fighters, like the F-15, are kind of a tradeoff between maneuverability and speed.
IIRC, FSW designs are more efficient up to right around Mach 1, and then normal wings and delta designs become superior. the FSW gives very high maneuverability, but it requires expensive composites to prevent the wing from warping backwards and tearing off.