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Of Sunrises and Logs.

Posted: 2005-10-24 09:36pm
by lukexcom
I have a new toy.

Canon EOS 300D, Digital Rebel SLR. 28-55mm stock lens, and a 75-300mm lens. Purchased in May. Here are a few ones I like.


All images taken at 3072x2048 original res. Sized down to 1024x683. No photoshop magic other than a © and a resize. The pics are available at any resolution upon request. Just let me know. :)

Any comments are appreciated.

I screwed up the white balance while taking this low depth-of-field picture. But I guess it turned out pretty artsy. 1/800s, f5.6, ISO200, 300mm.
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Sunrise pic, playing with exposure and white balances. For $700 in May, this camera has astonishing ISO speeds and quality. 1/200s, f10, ISO200, 55mm.
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Another sunrise pic taken a few minutes later, slight change in exposure and white balance. 1/200s, f10, ISO200, 55mm.
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Same spot, night-time. 30s, f4.5, ISO200, 85mm.
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Posted: 2005-10-24 10:17pm
by darthdavid
I wish I had a D-SLR :cry:. How does it compare, in your opinion, to a high end Film SLR or a regular, non SLR, digital camera?

Posted: 2005-10-25 04:28am
by lukexcom
darthdavid wrote:I wish I had a D-SLR :cry:. How does it compare, in your opinion, to a high end Film SLR or a regular, non SLR, digital camera?
Well, there are advantages and disadvantages to D-SLR, SLR, or regular cameras. I'm not an expert, but an amateur, but here's some of what I know.

Lets start right off the bat with saying this: Digital cameras are for point-and-shoot photography, no hassles, no "setting up the scene" work. Film SLRs and DSLRs are all about creativity and control. There's a good "DSLR or regular digital. What's right for you?" flash animation here.

A Digital SLR camera typically has a far larger CMOS sensor than a regular digital camera. This means you get a far higher dynamic range, i.e. how bright is the brightest white and how dark is the darkest black, meaning that trying to photograph Batman on a nice, partly-cloudy day at the beach will reveal somewhat more details in the white clouds and the batsuit and reduce the "washed out" effect than a regular camera (but not much more in this extreme example). Basically, it's how much detail can bee seen in deep shadows before bright areas start to lose texture.

Another benefit is less noise due to the larger sensor size. A typical digital camera can give you choices on varying ISO speeds (adjusting the sensor's sensitivity to light), say, between 40 to 200.

My Digital Rebel, with hacked firmware that borrows a few features from the higher-end-but-same-CMOS-sensor Canon EOS-10D, goes from ISO 100 to ISO 3200. It gives far greater light-sensitivity control, giving you the ability to increase shutter speed and get the same amount of light in the picture, while combating a blurry image due to the higher shutter speed. Canon's sensors are regarded for their low noise levels (sort of like film grain) at high ISO speeds.

What I love about bigger sensor sizes in DSLRs is that an 8mp image taken with a DSLR can look great even on a large 16x20 print, while the same 8mp image from a regular digital camera with a small sensor size would start to look bad at those sizes.

You might have trouble with a high-depth-of-field shot with a DSLR compared to a high-end regular digital camera. In other words, in some circumstances a regular digital camera can be far, far better at keeping focus on that bird in a few feet in front of you and the entire park scene as well. On the offset, DSLRs usually have far superior performance in the shallow-field-of-depth performance, like the first image in my OP. For a good illustration of the difference in depth-of-field performance between DSLRs and regular digitals, click here and click on the image.

The nice thing about a Canon or a Nikon DSLR camera is the literally hundreds of different types of lenses you can attatch to them (from a paltry $150 to thousands of dollars), from a macro lens, to a 14mm wide-angle lens, the stock 28mm-55mm lens for the Digital Rebel, a 75-300mm longer-range lens with built-in Image Stabilization (IS is a VERY expensive feature for many lenses), some tele-photo lenses at 800mm or 1200mm, UV filter or polarizer caps for the lenses, 2x teleconverter lenses, the list goes on. A typical digital camera does not have such a selection like that, but then again, neither will the user of those cameras be willing to invest the time, effort, and money associated with such equipment.

One interesting aspect of DSLR compared to regular 35mm film SLR is the focal length multiplier. This means that a DSLR (like mine) with a 1.6x focal length multiplier and a 28-55mm zoom lens would give the same image as a 45-88mm zoom lens on a 35mm SLR.

To see more differences between DSLRs and the regular digitals, you can read this guide.

Posted: 2005-10-26 11:51pm
by darthdavid
Thanks for all the info.

Posted: 2005-10-27 03:12pm
by Fleet Admiral JD
How much does a camera like that cost?

Posted: 2005-10-27 03:35pm
by General Zod
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:How much does a camera like that cost?
Your google-fu is weak!

Posted: 2005-10-30 01:33am
by lukexcom
General Zod wrote:
Fleet Admiral JD wrote:How much does a camera like that cost?
Your google-fu is weak!
Honestly I have to say, IMO at $605 for this package it is a most excellent deal. You get a great DSLR camera, one whose CMOS sensor is identical to it's bigger and better brother, the Canon EOS-10D that goes for $1,200.

I bought it for $739 (with Best Buy employee discount, vs. $799 retail) on May 11th, 2005, and a $159 75-300mm lens ($209 retail at Best Buy), and eventually added a wireless controller, the RC-4, at Ritz Camera for $30.

The perfect deal for someone who wants to try to taste the world beyond point-and-shoot digital photography.

Posted: 2005-10-30 01:47am
by Ace Pace
How hard is it to just use predefined settings and point and shoot?

Posted: 2005-10-30 03:38am
by Darth Wong
lukexcom wrote:What I love about bigger sensor sizes in DSLRs is that an 8mp image taken with a DSLR can look great even on a large 16x20 print, while the same 8mp image from a regular digital camera with a small sensor size would start to look bad at those sizes.
Indeed, that's something most people don't realize because they just look at the megapixel count. They don't realize that the optical limitations of a small sensor just mean that you'll have a very high-resolution snapshot of a grainy image.

Posted: 2005-10-30 03:39am
by Darth Wong
PS. This thread title annoys the shit out of me. That's because every time I see it, I think it says "Of Sunrises and Legs", not logs. I want to see some artistic pictures of womens' legs with a sunrise backdrop!