Metal and hard rock
Posted: 2005-11-11 10:52am
Any other metal or hard rock fans on this board?
Personally I can't get enough of Iron Maiden and Rammstein.
Personally I can't get enough of Iron Maiden and Rammstein.
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What type specifcally?Neocron wrote:Any other metall or hard rock fans on this board?
Personally I can't get enough of Iron Maiden and Rammstein.
I had more than enough metal working opposite the mainstage at the Leeds festival earlier this year, Iron Maiden weren’t so bad but most of the other bands were truly dreadful, still atleast I got to see the Pixies who were wonderful.Neocron wrote:Any other metall or hard rock fans on this board?
Personally I can't get enough of Iron Maiden and Rammstein.
the difference is in the cloths LOLAce Pace wrote:Okey, honest question to Rye, whats the difference between Death and black metal and etc.? They all mostly sound the same,except Death and Black metal I recognise because they are mostly screams.
Black Metal/Death Metal:Inspired largely by the lumbering dirges and stoned, paranoid darkness of Black Sabbath, doom metal is one of the very few heavy metal subgenres to prize feel and mood more than flashy technique (though the latter can certainly be present). Even more indebted to Sabbath than most metal, doom metal is extremely slow, sludgy, and creepy, feeling so heavy it can barely move; its deliberate pace and murky guitars are meant to evoke (what else?) a sense of impending doom. The movement began to take shape in the mid-'80s, as underground bands like the SST label's Saint Vitus, the critically acclaimed Trouble, and Sweden's Candlemass attracted cult audiences for their out-of-fashion, Sabbath-dominated sounds. Trouble and Cathedral helped bring doom metal to a wider (though not mainstream) metal audience during the early '90s, and doom's monolithic darkness quickly made it appealing to a variety of tastes. Doom metal was one of the formative influences on the retro-obsessed stoner metal movement of the '90s, and it was not uncommon for bands to find favor in both camps. Another dominant strain of '90s doom metal -- pioneered by British bands like Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride, and Anathema -- fused Sabbath heaviness with the sounds and sensibilities of goth-metal, plus occasional touches of death metal; the results were sorrowful, gloomy epics. The '90s also birthed a unique doom metal scene centered in New Orleans; the sound of bands like Crowbar and Eyehategod was often described as "sludge metal" because of their heavy debt to early Seattle grunge bands like the Melvins and Soundgarden. Several doom metal bands incorporated progressive tendencies, though this approach was much less widespread.
Basically Death Meta/Black Metal is fast and based on thrash metal, and Doom Metal is very slow.Death Metal grew out of the thrash metal in the late '80s. Taking the gritty lyrics and morbid obsessions of thrash to extremes, death metal was -- as its name suggests -- solely about death, pain, and suffering. These relentlessly bleak lyrics were set to loud, heavy riffs that owed as much to the lumbering metal of Black Sabbath as it did to Metallica. Death metal bands also owed a debt to the complex song structures of '70s art rockers, though most of these winding, intricate compositional methods were learned through Metallica. Death metal never attracted a wide audience, but to some diehard heavy metal fans, it was a preferable alternative to Metallica and Guns N' Roses -- who were selling millions of records in the late '80s and early '90s -- or the pop-metal of Poison. It kept a small, dedicated cult throughout the '90s.
Mastadon is great. I discovered them reading Indie-Rock websites, which is strange.thecreech wrote:I have found a really good techinical band call Mastadon that i am currently listening to also
Black metal has more raspy vocals, compared to death metal's occasional rasp and focus on the "death growl" or gutteral grunting style of vocals. Black metal riffs tend not to have as much palm muted notes as death metal (which is closer to the style popularised by Slayer). They have similar levels of speed and very similar drumming, but Black metal usually has a more "sharp" feel to the music (probably as a result of how jarringly the songs are put together) and is more obsessed with pagans, sillier clothes and burning churches. Black metal is mostly associated with scandinavia, death metal America and England.Ace Pace wrote:Okey, honest question to Rye, whats the difference between Death and black metal and etc.? They all mostly sound the same,except Death and Black metal I recognise because they are mostly screams.
Death metal is usually blisteringly fast, whereas doom metal slows it right down, and will not necessarily rely on growled vocals, though they may use them. There are slower death metal bands (Bolt Thrower, Latest era Carcass, the epic Nile songs)but generally, DM incorporates blast beats and a fast tempo. Doom metal is specifically tailored to songs like "Black Sabbath" by black sabbath, whereas slow death metal would still retain the spirit of defiant thrash metal to some extent.HemlockGrey wrote:What the hell is the difference between "death metal" and "doom metal"?