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Mandator-Class

Posted: 2006-01-05 07:17pm
by Surlethe
For my fanfic (yes, I'm working on it ...), the Mandator shows up, so I thought I'd throw together a design. I'm curious what people think of it; please, give me feedback!

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Posted: 2006-01-05 07:23pm
by Knife
A kitbash Executor?

Meh, sorry, but meh.

Posted: 2006-01-05 07:38pm
by Ender
It is similar to the OR era star dreadnaught we saw in Tales, so that's a plus.

Posted: 2006-01-05 07:40pm
by Ender
And it would have been commissioned by the ruling famalies of Kuat, or Kuat of Kuat, or somesuch, not the senate.

Posted: 2006-01-05 07:55pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Unless it is a Mandator-class Mark II subclass.

Posted: 2006-01-05 08:24pm
by Surlethe
Knife wrote:A kitbash Executor?

Meh, sorry, but meh.
My thought was, the Executor needs a design lineage, and big KDY starships like the Mandator would be its predecessor, so it should look similar, but smaller.

Posted: 2006-01-05 08:33pm
by Burak Gazan
Not too bad looking -- whats that on the belly, a large hangar area , near the aft-pointing "dagger" ?

Posted: 2006-01-06 04:28pm
by Surlethe
Burak Gazan wrote:Not too bad looking -- whats that on the belly, a large hangar area , near the aft-pointing "dagger" ?
Yes, that's a hangar.

Posted: 2006-01-06 10:00pm
by Alan Bolte
Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.

Posted: 2006-01-06 10:05pm
by Surlethe
Alan Bolte wrote:Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.
How many should I add, then?

Posted: 2006-01-06 11:33pm
by Lord Revan
Surlethe wrote:
Alan Bolte wrote:Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.
How many should I add, then?
the Executor had 13 thrusters of various sizes so 6 or 7 (in total, add 2 or 3) at least, also I think the hangar area is a bit too big

otherwise it's nice.

Posted: 2006-01-06 11:34pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I don't like the big "tooth." It looks silly. That and it's simply too almost exactly like the Executor-class for my tastes.

Posted: 2006-01-07 12:07am
by Balrog
I agree, lose the "tooth" and change it up a bit; the Venetor-class looks like an ISD yet still has a feeling of being different, this just looks like a modern Executor variant.

Posted: 2006-01-07 10:46am
by Vympel
Bah. If I were to ever do a fanfic it would consist only of canon Imperial warships. I just flat out don't like EU ships of any sort. Not even EU wedges cut the mustard- too ill-defined. I'd only change my mind if they released say ... an official CD-ROM with nice RotS-quality meshes of them. Or something.

Posted: 2006-01-07 11:40pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Vympel wrote:Bah. If I were to ever do a fanfic it would consist only of canon Imperial warships. I just flat out don't like EU ships of any sort. Not even EU wedges cut the mustard- too ill-defined. I'd only change my mind if they released say ... an official CD-ROM with nice RotS-quality meshes of them. Or something.
That's retarded. Then you have a distribution of 2-3 classes (not including the CW ships) to cover all the roles and business of a galactic superpower.

Posted: 2006-01-08 12:23am
by Coriolis
I agree w/ everyone else on that "tooth" portion of your ship. Maybe move the bridge back a bit. It looks awkward where it currently is. Also, see what happens if you make it a bit wider.

Posted: 2006-01-08 08:08pm
by Vympel
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
That's retarded. Then you have a distribution of 2-3 classes (not including the CW ships) to cover all the roles and business of a galactic superpower.
I'm only speaking in terms of my imagination- I simply can't picture the EU warships next to those in the films. Hence idle day-dreaming about seeing some nice meshes of them.

Posted: 2006-01-08 09:19pm
by Knife
StarWarsJunkie89 wrote:I agree w/ everyone else on that "tooth" portion of your ship. Maybe move the bridge back a bit. It looks awkward where it currently is. Also, see what happens if you make it a bit wider.
Agreed. The Kuati made the Mandator for system defense, didn't they? Obviously, it'll have hyperdrive, but not necessarily the top of the line one. For the most part, it'll be insystem and/or with large fleets. I see no reason why it would have large hangar complexes. Of course it would need shuttlebays and the like, and I can see a handfull of squadrons for recon, ect.... But since it's supposed to be a StarDreadnaught or a Star Battleship, why would it need such a huge hangar complex?

I'd ditch that part.

Aslo, why the classic SD bridge tower? IF anything, I'd slap in the type of bridge tower from a Venator or something akin to it. Perhaps a Venator like bridge towards the rear with a Acclamator like bulb further along towards the bow.

I'll give Surlethe credit, though, with having the patience to draw all the little superstructures on the dorsal hull. Yeesh.

Posted: 2006-01-08 09:32pm
by RThurmont
Just 4 thrusters? I don't think we see that on any ship of half that size.
Ultimately the number of "thrusters" is irrelevant, for two reasons:

1. The specific impulse attainable for each thruster is more important than the number of thrusters, so for instance, you could have two thrusters equal in power to eight thrusters of a different design.

2. The more thrusters you have, the higher your maintenance costs, but at the same time, the more failsafes you have in the event of a malfunction. Thus, the two opposing viewpoints, economy and reliability, balance each other out.

Also, do we really know that those are individual thrusters? Might they not simply be exhaust nozzles connected to one or two gigantic engines buried within the hull?

Ultimately though, anyway you slice the thruster issue, it doesn't change the fact that this is a geniunely lousy design.