The ONE Voyager Episode that I liked

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-01-13 08:40pm

Has anyone else watched the episode where some society has pieces of Voyager in their museum and remember them as warmongering murderers? That was a great one! The Doctor was an android, Neelix was called "Hedgehog" and Seven was still a Borg. I wish Voyager would have been like this for the whole show!

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-01-13 08:54pm

"Living Witness." Rocked. Mostly because everyone except the Doctor was gone.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-13 09:22pm

Seeing as how this has nothing to do with SW, I'm moving it to the Pure ST forum.

BTW, that WAS a good VOY episode.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-13 09:43pm

Most episodes centering around the Doctor were actually quite good. The episodes that featured both Seven and the Doctor were also generally good. While Jeri Ryan might have been there because of here large chest, she did a good job playing the role and played a good character. The Doctor and Seven were easily the only two good characters in the entire show.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-13 09:57pm

Alyeska wrote:Most episodes centering around the Doctor were actually quite good. The episodes that featured both Seven and the Doctor were also generally good. While Jeri Ryan might have been there because of here large chest, she did a good job playing the role and played a good character. The Doctor and Seven were easily the only two good characters in the entire show.

While I can't say that Jeri Ryan had a particularly challenging role to play from an acting standpoint, she and the Doctor were the most interesting characters on VOY, IMO. Not coincidentally, they took many of their driving personality traits from other good characters from ST Past, such as Data, Spock, and Odo, but the effect was pretty good. The characters I did not like were Chakotay, Janeway, Paris, and Neelix.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-13 10:16pm

I liked it too. A bit thought-provoking, which doesn't say much for ST.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-13 10:28pm

An excellent episode. Even the rest of the main cast had good performances for the few minutes they were featured. The Doctor just rocked that whole episode, though, especially as his evil android counterpart. "That tingling you feel is your optic nerves beginning to dissolve."

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2003-01-13 10:37pm

I liked that episode because we got to see the crew being evil.

In all other episodes it shows them being "good" when we all know they are the spawn of the devil.

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2003-01-13 10:46pm

I think i saw that one. Seems like there was a part when they showed a photon torp and a guy said it could blow up the whole city. That is only part that i can remember.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-01-13 10:47pm

Galaxy wrote:I think i saw that one. Seems like there was a part when they showed a photon torp and a guy said it could blow up the whole city. That is only part that i can remember.

Ass

Galaxy · Post by **Galaxy** » 2003-01-13 10:51pm

what?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-13 10:54pm

Stravo wrote:
Galaxy wrote:I think i saw that one. Seems like there was a part when they showed a photon torp and a guy said it could blow up the whole city. That is only part that i can remember.
Ass

Yes, you are, very perceptive of you.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-13 10:58pm

I dunno what's happening but I'll just say before leaving that it doesn't take that many megatons to destroy a city.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-01-14 05:14am

That episode ruled, it was like those mirrorverse episodes in the other trek series.

The Doctor was cool because he was actually developing into a sentient lifeform, which technically wasn't suppose to happen. He also was one of the few characters to actually do something good when he created that Emergency Command Hologram.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-14 06:10am

Funny thing is. The episode is actually on right now here in SoCal on UPn. I turned to it and suddenly I see Janeway as some sort of psycho. This janeway would have fit in as an Imperial Commander.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-14 06:17am

Direct quote from the Episode. "2 million Kyrians dead within days" this means that it took days for Voyager's bombardments and plague to kill a fraction of the dead that an Imperial BDZ would accomplish within a few hours.

Why they didn't constantly bombard? Probably because it would waste fuel and energy and thus make it impractical.

Also "A Voyager Torpedo with a 25 Isoton Yield"

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » 2003-01-14 05:22pm

Actually I hated that episode. My favorite was the Year of Hell (too bad they didn't stay dead)and a few others.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-01-14 09:17pm

You hated that episode? Oh wow, that one was the ONLY one I liked! Believe me, I absolutely hated Voyager but even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. In Voyager's case, it only happened once.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-01-15 12:16pm

Year of Hell? How many times did they push the reset button? Half a dozen times I would guess.

And Living witness reminded me very much from a similar episode of B5, seeing how the humans became like Vorlons.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-01-16 08:07am

The Doc was a very good character i liked him. In that episode he was really allowed to come into his own. Robert Picardo is a very good actor in his own right and Voyager was a waste of his tallents.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-01-17 12:22am

ArmorPierce wrote:I dunno what's happening but I'll just say before leaving that it doesn't take that many megatons to destroy a city.

http://pub82.ezboard.com/fhistorypoliti ... D=22.topic

All this means that dropping a nuclear device on a city doesn't necessarily destroy it. In fact, an acquaintance of mine, Peter Laurie, used to start off his lecture on such things by suggesting that 1 megaton device dropped on London would do only trivial damage to the city. After the lynch mob had been brought under control, he'd put a pie cutter on a demographic map of London and prove the point. That device would leave approximately 80 percent of the population and a stunning 95 percent of its assets undestroyed. To be fair, that includes people and property slightly damaged but repairable. The catch is that London wouldn't have been hit by one but by several (in fact four 350 kiloton and two 1 megaton weapons in one particular attack plan). This would still leave a substantial proportion of the population and a larger proportion of their assets intact.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-01-17 01:02pm

I remember that episode....... Voyager had its own Borg attack team. What I don't remember is how the heck they managed to control them, anyone remember how?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-17 01:06pm

They kept them all asleep essentially until they were needed to be deployed.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-17 01:42pm

You know... The Warship Voyager was actually a pretty damned cool ship. VERY heavily armed, gear soley for combat, and a Captain who knows how to get what she wants without letting anything get in her way.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-01-17 02:04pm

Damn, wish I had the episode handy right now....... anyone know when it will be shown again and on what network?