ODS9 Defiant

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

Post Reply
User avatar
Ahriman238
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4854
Joined: 2011-04-22 11:04pm
Location: Ocularis Terribus.

ODS9 Defiant

Post by Ahriman238 »

Chucks been mostly redoing and posting old stuff on his site, since youtube shut him down. But I don't remember seeing this review of 'the Defiant' before, and it's quite good.
http://sfdebris.com/startrek/d455.asp
"Any plan which requires the direct intervention of any deity to work can be assumed to be a very poor one."- Newbiespud
User avatar
Captain Seafort
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1750
Joined: 2008-10-10 11:52am
Location: Blighty

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by Captain Seafort »

He's mostly putting out old stuff, slightly remastered, but Saturdays are still reserved for new reviews.
User avatar
JME2
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 12258
Joined: 2003-02-02 04:04pm

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by JME2 »

This is still one of my favorite DS9 episodes.

I loved seeing Sisko and Dukat being forced to team-up again, especially in the wake of "The Maquis".

I also love the foreshadowing and misdirection here, that the Order's fleet...
Spoiler
...isn't being built to take on the Maquis, it's being built to take on the Founders.
That and it was also the first appearance of quantum torpedoes.
User avatar
FaxModem1
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7700
Joined: 2002-10-30 06:40pm
Location: In a dark reflection of a better world

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by FaxModem1 »

One thing about this episode that always bugged me. Kira called the Maquis terrorists, and terrorists don't get to be heroes.

And yet, the Maquis are people who are fighting a guerilla war against the Cardassians to establish their own nation and view it more as a revolution than an insurrection. So why do they have to follow the terrorist route?
Image
User avatar
JME2
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 12258
Joined: 2003-02-02 04:04pm

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by JME2 »

Well, we know that Starfleet Command -- and Sisko especially -- saw the Maquis as terrorists, not revolutionaries. Yet Kira also sympathized with their conflict with the Cardassians, as did many Bajorans.

My interpretation is that having spent two and half years as DS9's Bajoran liaison, Kira had adopted the Starfleet classification. Her experience on the station showed her that Bajor could no longer be insular and was affected by the Quadrant's geo-politics.

Even Kira saw that the Maquis' actions were making a tenuous situation even worse. And as we know all too well...
Spoiler
...the Maquis' actions were one of the factors that led to the Cardassians joining the Dominion.
User avatar
FaxModem1
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7700
Joined: 2002-10-30 06:40pm
Location: In a dark reflection of a better world

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by FaxModem1 »

I think the Klingons helped more with that one.
Image
User avatar
JME2
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 12258
Joined: 2003-02-02 04:04pm

Re: ODS9 Defiant

Post by JME2 »

FaxModem1 wrote:I think the Klingons helped more with that one.
Oh, the Klingon invasion was the primary cause; not arguments there. But the Maquis do bear some degree of responsiblity, as Sisko argued in "Blaze of Glory".

The invasion pulled Cardassian forces away from the Fed-Cardie border, giving the Maquis free reign of the DMZ. They then upped the ante when they stole industrial replicators meant for Cardassian economic relief and later when Eddington deployed his biological weapons.

Approaching the Dominion solved Cardassia's Klingon infestation, but also allowed them to strike back at these upstarts who'd humiliated them.
Post Reply