Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

Crazedwraith
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11947
Joined: 2003-04-10 03:45pm
Location: Cheshire, England

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by Crazedwraith »

TNG loving Boimler joining S31 never made sense, I only assumed to did it for the film parody aspect of crisis point 2 and that why they've only revisited him now.

I didn't really like the concept or most of the guest characters for the latest episode but enjoyed it anyway. Quite high stakes and fast moving plotwise that kept it interesting but that end, yeah it sets up a big finale but logically: what you couldn't find an empty reality? or one that was all assimilated or something?

Not been posting my thoughts week on week for lack of thread of activity but to summarise. They've mostly been fair to middling. The only real standout for me was Ma'ah's episode.

I'm not actually that torn up about it ending before it really runs out of steam but I'm not sure next week was designed as the series rather than season finale. *shrug* we shall see.
bilateralrope
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6167
Joined: 2005-06-25 06:50pm
Location: New Zealand

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by bilateralrope »

Crazedwraith wrote: 2024-12-14 02:39pm I didn't really like the concept or most of the guest characters for the latest episode but enjoyed it anyway. Quite high stakes and fast moving plotwise that kept it interesting but that end, yeah it sets up a big finale but logically: what you couldn't find an empty reality? or one that was all assimilated or something?
In the end, the episode was exactly what Boimler was complaining about when it came to travelling the multiverse. Complaining about a thing a type of story does, then doing it anyway, is not something I like. Still the episode was enjoyable overall.


As for the high stakes, the entire multiverse got lucky that the universe that developed the universe jumping tech that threatened everything was significantly behind the one universe that bothered to try and stop them. Hopefully the next time someone developers that tech before warp drive there is also someone to intervene.
Not been posting my thoughts week on week for lack of thread of activity but to summarise. They've mostly been fair to middling. The only real standout for me was Ma'ah's episode.

I'm not actually that torn up about it ending before it really runs out of steam but I'm not sure next week was designed as the series rather than season finale. *shrug* we shall see.
Overall the season has been enjoyable, but the only thing that stands out to me is naming the Klowhkans. A name that makes me think cloaca, and is thus a very questionable name for a bird species.
AniThyng
Sith Devotee
Posts: 2774
Joined: 2003-09-08 12:47pm
Location: Took an arrow in the knee.
Contact:

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by AniThyng »

Crazedwraith wrote: 2024-12-14 02:39pm TNG loving Boimler joining S31 never made sense, I only assumed to did it for the film parody aspect of crisis point 2 and that why they've only revisited him now.

I didn't really like the concept or most of the guest characters for the latest episode but enjoyed it anyway. Quite high stakes and fast moving plotwise that kept it interesting but that end, yeah it sets up a big finale but logically: what you couldn't find an empty reality? or one that was all assimilated or something?

Not been posting my thoughts week on week for lack of thread of activity but to summarise. They've mostly been fair to middling. The only real standout for me was Ma'ah's episode.

I'm not actually that torn up about it ending before it really runs out of steam but I'm not sure next week was designed as the series rather than season finale. *shrug* we shall see.
My understanding is it was already too late, the rift would destroy all realities if not countered, and William believed only his universes lower decks 5 had what it takes to find a solution. If he routed it to a empty reality it would just lead to the inevitable
I do know how to spell
AniThyng is merely the name I gave to what became my favourite Baldur's Gate II mage character :P
bilateralrope
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6167
Joined: 2005-06-25 06:50pm
Location: New Zealand

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by bilateralrope »

Crazedwraith wrote: 2024-12-14 02:39pm what you couldn't find an empty reality? or one that was all assimilated or something?
Note that Boimler complained about how similar each reality was. So they might not have run across one that was empty in what little they saw of it. Also, even if what they saw was empty, that says nothing about anything more than maybe a few hundred light years away. Maybe much less.

As for an assimilated reality, the reality hopping ship they were chasing had someone who worked with Zefram Cochrane. That makes me thing that most of the technology on board, including weapons, was far behind the TNG era Federation. Them jumping into borg space would have gone really badly for them, so I don't think they ran into one. Also there would be the problem of not knowing how far the borg had spread there or what existed outside their reach.

There are too many unknowns to label any reality they had only spent a few days in as being more worthy of destruction than any other.
Crazedwraith
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11947
Joined: 2003-04-10 03:45pm
Location: Cheshire, England

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by Crazedwraith »

So after all that. The same rift closing thing that works on all the others works on this (with minor mods), and main Starfleet can instantly whip up a mostly effective counter for the effects to protect so the main threat comes from... a never seen before klingon woman. woo.

You can tell how little they've done with Rutherford and Tendi and T'Lyn that they had to speed run an arc for them this episode. Fuck them for throwing in that ship tease knowing they'd never have to deal with it.

Oh and we get a never mentioned before permanent multiversal gateway for them to explore... for what two years until Picard's backstory hits?

I did enjoy the fanservice sequence of the Cerritos turning into different ships and the gag with Shaxs drooling over the Terran Empire Ship's weapons only for them to be immediately shut down worked.

The end of series stuff is fine. They presumably knew or like Disco were allowed to add a Coda. Less glurgey than Discovery or Prodigy but still silly in places. I should be mad about Boimler and Mariner being joint first officer LTJGs or the stupid warp phrase joke making another appearance but it does fit Lower Decks better than the other series.


I'm just fine with them ending it here before it really runs out of steam which it seems on the edge of this season at least.
User avatar
Alferd Packer
Sith Marauder
Posts: 3706
Joined: 2002-07-19 09:22pm
Location: Slumgullion Pass
Contact:

Re: Star Trek Lower Decks Thread

Post by Alferd Packer »

For me, it seemed like they were cramming multiple seasons of story beats into a single season. Maybe McMahan had charted out a 7 season, 70 episode run, but had the rug pulled out from him and was forced to consolidate. It's unfortunate, as the result was a scattershot season that tried to cram in everything, so never really focused on anything. Still, on the whole I'm sad to see it go. Hopefully Season 3 of SNW continues to carry the Star Trek flag going forward.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -Herbert Spencer

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." - Schiller, Die Jungfrau von Orleans, III vi.
Post Reply