New direction for Enterprise?

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

Post Reply
User avatar
Clone Sergeant
Padawan Learner
Posts: 367
Joined: 2002-12-16 03:42pm

New direction for Enterprise?

Post by Clone Sergeant »

Hope this isn't old news but....

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/393/393883p1.html
"We'll be dealing with a different group of aliens, [and] we're going to be dealing with some new, non-Starfleet people coming on the ship to add a little muscle for the potentially violent situations our crew will be coming up against."
"Muscle", eh?

Too little, too late if you ask me.

What do you all think?
User avatar
DarthBlight
Padawan Learner
Posts: 225
Joined: 2003-02-17 09:21pm
Location: In a jungle of concrete, steel, and decay
Contact:

Post by DarthBlight »

Yep, WAY too little FAR too late.

The only way Trek will ever be saved is new direction and Bitch n' Bastard's heads mounted on pikes as a warning to the next ten generations that some things are not to be fucked with.
150th post made June 9, 2003
Member of the Anti-PETA Anti-Fascist League
Debater classification: Lurker
Image
User avatar
neoolong
Dead Sexy 'Shroom
Posts: 13180
Joined: 2002-08-29 10:01pm
Location: California

Post by neoolong »

Shoveling shit onto a sinking boat isn't going to save it.

Enterprise is finished. I wish they would just let it die.
Member of the BotM. @( !.! )@
Howedar
Emperor's Thumb
Posts: 12472
Joined: 2002-07-03 05:06pm
Location: St. Paul, MN

Post by Howedar »

In all fairness, TNG's first season or two stunk pretty badly as well. IMHO, DS9 was even worse. Enterprise could conceivably still become a watchable show.
Howedar is no longer here. Need to talk to him? Talk to Pick.
User avatar
Uraniun235
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 13772
Joined: 2002-09-12 12:47am
Location: OREGON
Contact:

Post by Uraniun235 »

Howedar wrote:In all fairness, TNG's first season or two stunk pretty badly as well. IMHO, DS9 was even worse. Enterprise could conceivably still become a watchable show.
TNG/DS9 were never so bad for so long as Enterprise has been. B&B could also concievably write a good episode, but we all know the odds on that.
User avatar
Darksider
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.

Post by Darksider »

Uraniun235 wrote:
Howedar wrote:In all fairness, TNG's first season or two stunk pretty badly as well. IMHO, DS9 was even worse. Enterprise could conceivably still become a watchable show.
TNG/DS9 were never so bad for so long as Enterprise has been. B&B could also concievably write a good episode, but we all know the odds on that.

Are they better or worse than the odds of sucessfully navigating an asteroid field???? (4,720,000 to one)
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
User avatar
Baron Mordo
Jedi Knight
Posts: 652
Joined: 2002-12-26 07:44pm
Location: The Universe, mostly

Post by Baron Mordo »

Never tell me the odds.
The revolution is successful, but survival depends on drastic measures. Your continued existence represents a threat to the well-being of society. Your lives means slow death to the more valued members of the colony. Therefore I have no alternative but to sentence you to death. Your execution is so ordered.

Signed,
Kodos, Governor of Tarsus 4.

Image
The Justice League
User avatar
Ghost Rider
Spirit of Vengeance
Posts: 27779
Joined: 2002-09-24 01:48pm
Location: DC...looking up from the gutters to the stars

Post by Ghost Rider »

Darksider wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:
Howedar wrote:In all fairness, TNG's first season or two stunk pretty badly as well. IMHO, DS9 was even worse. Enterprise could conceivably still become a watchable show.
TNG/DS9 were never so bad for so long as Enterprise has been. B&B could also concievably write a good episode, but we all know the odds on that.

Are they better or worse than the odds of sucessfully navigating an asteroid field???? (4,720,000 to one)
Worse.
MM /CF/WG/BOTM/JL/Original Warsie/ACPATHNTDWATGODW FOREVER!!

Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all

Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
User avatar
kojikun
BANNED
Posts: 9663
Joined: 2002-07-04 12:23am
Contact:

Post by kojikun »

just to be a dick, a real asteroid field is so empty that theres about 10 million miles between one asteroid and the nearest neighbor :)
Sì! Abbiamo un' anima! Ma è fatta di tanti piccoli robot.
User avatar
Darksider
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.

Post by Darksider »

kojikun wrote:just to be a dick, a real asteroid field is so empty that theres about 10 million miles between one asteroid and the nearest neighbor :)
I think everyone knows that i'm using an ESB quote.
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
User avatar
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Ruthless Imperial Tyrant
Posts: 5755
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:11pm
Location: Canada

Post by Grand Admiral Thrawn »

Ten bucks says the muscle is a bunch of idiots with pistols, knives and no tactics.
"You know, I was God once."
"Yes, I saw. You were doing well, until everyone died."
Bender and God, Futurama
User avatar
Darksider
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.

Post by Darksider »

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Ten bucks says the muscle is a bunch of idiots with pistols, knives and no tactics.
Nah, i'd like to keep my ten bucks
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
User avatar
Montcalm
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7879
Joined: 2003-01-15 10:50am
Location: Montreal Canada North America

Post by Montcalm »

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Ten bucks says the muscle is a bunch of idiots with pistols, knives and no tactics.
Too late they allready have those they`re called Klingons. :mrgreen:
Image
Jerry Orbach 1935 2004
Admiral Valdemar~You know you've fucked up when Wacky Races has more realistic looking vehicles than your own.
Silver
Youngling
Posts: 123
Joined: 2002-07-04 03:58pm

Post by Silver »

Oh dear god what if it turns out that a bunch of klingons joins the crew! :shock:
User avatar
neoolong
Dead Sexy 'Shroom
Posts: 13180
Joined: 2002-08-29 10:01pm
Location: California

Post by neoolong »

They've just admitted in the interview that they know jack shit about Star Trek. Like saving Earth never being done before in a series. :roll:

If Paramount reads this shit, they should get canned.
Member of the BotM. @( !.! )@
User avatar
Burak Gazan
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1536
Joined: 2002-12-30 07:45pm
Location: Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
Contact:

Post by Burak Gazan »

Darksider wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:
Howedar wrote:In all fairness, TNG's first season or two stunk pretty badly as well. IMHO, DS9 was even worse. Enterprise could conceivably still become a watchable show.
TNG/DS9 were never so bad for so long as Enterprise has been. B&B could also concievably write a good episode, but we all know the odds on that.

Are they better or worse than the odds of sucessfully navigating an asteroid field???? (4,720,000 to one)
<Protocol droid voice> I beg your pardon sir, but I believe the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are 3, 720 to 1. :D
User avatar
Oberleutnant
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1585
Joined: 2002-07-06 04:44pm
Location: Finland

Post by Oberleutnant »

neoolong wrote:They've just admitted in the interview that they know jack shit about Star Trek. Like saving Earth never being done before in a series. :roll:
How would that be possible? Berman, having written over 500 episodes, has been involved in Trek business since TNG was launched in 1987 - he was personally picked by Roddenberry himself, for God's sake. Give this guy credit, he may suck in what he does, but he is not a total idiot. I find it hard to impossible to believe that he wouldn't know anything about Star Trek.

Braga on the other hand, once admitted that before starting his work on TNG he had not seen a single episode of TOS. However, he would have some understanding of Trek by now after over ten years of experience. Okay, these two are unable to even maintain intra-series continuity, but would they really say that . . . ?


"For the first time on a Star Trek series, we're going to be dealing with a mission to save Earth," Berman said in an interview.

:shock: Oh well, nevermind . . . Forget what I just said.

*cough*The Best of the Both Worlds*cough*All the Good Things (well, technically - and it was written by Braga!)*cough*
"Thousands of years ago cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this."
User avatar
neoolong
Dead Sexy 'Shroom
Posts: 13180
Joined: 2002-08-29 10:01pm
Location: California

Post by neoolong »

It's all the crack they've been smoking to come up with the crap ideas for Enterprise. Fucks with the memory.
Member of the BotM. @( !.! )@
User avatar
Ghost Rider
Spirit of Vengeance
Posts: 27779
Joined: 2002-09-24 01:48pm
Location: DC...looking up from the gutters to the stars

Post by Ghost Rider »

neoolong wrote:It's all the crack they've been smoking to come up with the crap ideas for Enterprise. Fucks with the memory.
Pfft I just say it's that they have no brain currently because all the damn wanking they do their stuff.

At least crack would've made them come up with funkier ideas.
MM /CF/WG/BOTM/JL/Original Warsie/ACPATHNTDWATGODW FOREVER!!

Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all

Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
User avatar
Sea Skimmer
Yankee Capitalist Air Pirate
Posts: 37390
Joined: 2002-07-03 11:49pm
Location: Passchendaele City, HAB

Post by Sea Skimmer »

I think someone needs to get a plunger to finish off this load of crap. The combat already sucks shit like the rest of it, I don't see new characters reverse the trend, just making it more common.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
User avatar
Superman
Pink Foamin' at the Mouth
Posts: 9690
Joined: 2002-12-16 12:29am
Location: Metropolis

Post by Superman »

I often hear that old argument about TNG, and DS9 having bad first seasons. I used to believe that, until Voyager came along. Season one went by, and I thought "hmmm, well DS9's first season was bad too." After season two, I thought "well, DS9 and TNG's second seasons were not so hot either." After season three, I thought "oh my god, this shit sucks ass and it's just getting worse. Trek is finished!" And you know what, I was right.

Since we have the same two pieces of human garbage in charge of the franchise, I believe it is safe to say that Enterprise is crap and it is going to remain this way.
Image
User avatar
Macross
Jedi Master
Posts: 1070
Joined: 2003-02-01 10:35pm
Contact:

Post by Macross »

Oberleutnant wrote: Braga on the other hand, once admitted that before starting his work on TNG he had not seen a single episode of TOS. However, he would have some understanding of Trek by now after over ten years of experience. Okay, these two are unable to even maintain intra-series continuity, but would they really say that . . . ?
Those two cant even maintain continuity between a two-part episode, example: Unimatrix Zero. :roll: As for Bragas experiance, he only worked for TNG for half its run, Voyager, and now Enterprise. He only knows modern Trek, and not even good modern Trek. He was part of a team on TNG, and (thankfully) had nothing to do with Deep Space Nine. Hes simply riding high on the sucess that others have built, people who truly know what Trek is about and who know how to write good TV.
User avatar
Patrick Degan
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 14847
Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
Location: Orleanian in exile

Post by Patrick Degan »

New direction for Boobyprise? From what I see, it's still on the Express Elevator to Hell —goin' down. 8)
Post Reply