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What exactly is Guinan, I mean, she is very old(at least 500), she knows when something goes wrong so(she knew about Sela being part Picard's fault, she knew about Crusher having problems, so she went to her witha faked injury.) she is there to help. She really hates Q. So what all do we know about her?
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She did have that big golden gun behind the counter and once joined Worf for firing practice.neoolong wrote:Didn't seem to help them much with the Borg. So it seems their abilities are more of the cerebral, rather than the blowing shit up, type.
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Yeah, though in thier defence that was the very first scary unstoppable borg before they got wussed down.....
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I believe in "Yesterday's Enterprise", Picard claimed that her race has some kind of temporal awareness that others lack. She's sensitive to various unusual phenomena as a result. Some of her more notable feats: she can detect the proximity of Q, and she's aware of changes in the timeline, even if she's not exactly sure what changed.Superman wrote:I don't know; she has some sort of intuition. She also seems to have the ability, or at least appear to have the ability, to defend herself against Q.
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Interesting. Startrek.com attributes her extra-sensory abilities to her short visit to the Nexus.
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http://www.startrek.com/library/individ.asp?ID=112466
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"This is not bad; this is a conspiracy to remove happiness from existence. It seeks to wrap its hedgehog hand around the still beating heart of the personification of good and squeeze until it is stilled."
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Irrelevant. We're talking about her and her specie's abilities. Not what toys she owns. No one said she didn't ever use guns, just that her race didn't have any that could hold off the borg.Sea Skimmer wrote:She did have that big golden gun behind the counter and once joined Worf for firing practice.neoolong wrote:Didn't seem to help them much with the Borg. So it seems their abilities are more of the cerebral, rather than the blowing shit up, type.
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I wonder if this means that the brain bug can now gestiate at a faster rate? Well, it could be both. We don't know how the NExus could have affected her alien physology.Ted C wrote:Interesting. Startrek.com attributes her extra-sensory abilities to her short visit to the Nexus.
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Well, IIRC, time had no meaning in the nexus, and you can leave it to supposedly any time/place you want. Perhaps it leave images of the various time lines in the subconscious which is how Guinan can tell that a "time line is wrong" (Yesterday's Enterprise)? Just an idea I had.Admiral Johnason wrote:I wonder if this means that the brain bug can now gestiate at a faster rate? Well, it could be both. We don't know how the NExus could have affected her alien physology.Ted C wrote:Interesting. Startrek.com attributes her extra-sensory abilities to her short visit to the Nexus.
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"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Her kno.loge of the Q was gained when she met Q (ST:NG's Q) 200 years previous to ST:NG. Apperently the meating didn't go well. Her race was all but totaly assimilated by the borg, right before the Entaprise B was launched. Her knologe of the Space Time continuem is from the nexus, since it can be seen that she cannot tell the probloms in the time stream when Data is thrown back in time (Time's Arrow pt1+2 (before her enconter w/ the nexus)). Guinion's apperent telepathy is because of her knowloge of possible feutres and the timestream. Her race is natrualy long lived.
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Maybe the only members of her race that people in the Alpha Quadrant have had contact with were the ones on the ships seen in Generations. There's also a possibility that the El Aurians (sp?) who had been in the Nexus made a big impression on the those they met, enough so that people stereotyped the whole species.Crazedwraith wrote:yeah but her whole race are supposed to be "listners" right? If she got her sensitivity from the nexus why are the whole lot of them listners?
Then again, mabye they were "listeners" before the nexus. They did live a long time so they could afford to be patient and get the most out of their interactions with other races.
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Maybe I missed something but what does "being sensitive to the time line" have to do with being good listners? There are lots of ordinary people who are good listners.Crazedwraith wrote:yeah but her whole race are supposed to be "listners" right? If she got her sensitivity from the nexus why are the whole lot of them listners?
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They are termed listeners and it does seem they have the ability to pry information from people, an El Aurian used this to become a con man on DS9, however it need not be some special ability as much as a learned ability honed by centuries of life or it could be some empath like power but I see no reason that the listening ability (if it exists) need depend upon exposure to the nexus.