The Transporter of youth.

brothersinarm · Post by **brothersinarm** » 2003-05-08 07:43pm

I don't know if this was ever brought up, so sorry if I'm just repeating what someone has already came up with this.

I was just watching TNG episode "Unnatural Selection" where Polaski (medical doctor) was affect by something to cause her to age. Then the crew using her original Unmodified DNA in junction with the Transporter reverted her back to her natural self. I'm not sure if the writers of that episode meant for this loophole to happen, but wouldn't it be possible for people to use sample of DNA, let us say from when they were teenagers, and use that to revert themselves to that age. I mean the process definitely didn't affect Polaski's memory, so people could become young again without losing their memory. Just a thought.

brothersinarm · Post by **brothersinarm** » 2003-05-08 07:51pm

PS. This is one HUGE hole, and I was just wondering how anyone could rationalize this until it makes sense.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-05-08 08:22pm

Haven't seen the episode, but... wow, sounds like TOS "The Deadly Years" only, you know... more stupider.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-05-08 09:07pm

You forgot the first rule of treknology: any and all technobabble solutions will be forgotten about by the start of the next episode.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-05-08 10:11pm

Your DNA as a zygote is the same as your DNA as a 30-year-old is the same as your DNA on your deathbed.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-05-09 12:02am

Wasn't there an episode in TNG where Picard, Guinan and Ro Laren became kids and Picard had to pretend he was Riker's son? IIRC they became kids due to a transporter accident...

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-05-09 03:32am

generator_g1 wrote:Wasn't there an episode in TNG where Picard, Guinan and Ro Laren became kids and Picard had to pretend he was Riker's son? IIRC they became kids due to a transporter accident...

Yes that is an epsiode. Also Picard haves HAIR when he was a munchkin and as a teenager.

Just another black mark for Nemesis, the "Bald Picard" bug.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-05-09 11:19am

Howedar wrote:Your DNA as a zygote is the same as your DNA as a 30-year-old is the same as your DNA on your deathbed.

For the most part, yes. However, it does lose a bit on the end of the chromosomes with each cell division. Those areas are called telomeres and have been theorized to be partly responsible for aging. They get replaced when the reproductive organs make the eggs and sperm which is how we are able to maintain our species over several generations. Of course, the way it was portrayed on Trek is grossly inaccurate (surprise, surprise). There are no known genes involved in aging.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-05-09 11:20am

Rubberanvil wrote:Yes that is an epsiode. Also Picard haves HAIR when he was a munchkin and as a teenager.

Just another black mark for Nemesis, the "Bald Picard" bug.

Ah, but wasn't skippy seriously ill? Couldn't that account for the lack of hair?

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-05-09 01:21pm

Both "Unnatural Selection" and "Rascals" suggest that the transporter could be used as a sort of "Fountain of Youth". Indeed, it ought to have numerous medical applications.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-05-09 05:20pm

Darth Servo wrote:Ah, but wasn't skippy seriously ill? Couldn't that account for the lack of hair?

I think he was refering to the photo of himself as a cadet Picard had, where he was bald there too.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-05-09 05:45pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Ah, but wasn't skippy seriously ill? Couldn't that account for the lack of hair?
I think he was refering to the photo of himself as a cadet Picard had, where he was bald there too.

Ah, I see. And in "All Good Things" Picard definitely had hair as a cadet. Got it. More proof that AGT was nothing but a Q-induced halucination.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-05-09 11:28pm

Darth Servo wrote:Ah, I see. And in "All Good Things" Picard definitely had hair as a cadet. Got it. More proof that AGT was nothing but a Q-induced halucination.

Though you'd think that Q would at least try not to change aspects of Picards life too much. Picard would reject the illusion if his past was changed.

Besides, I don't think that AGT was an illusion, I just think that the writers decided to go in a different direction and ignore it.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-05-10 12:05pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Ah, but wasn't skippy seriously ill? Couldn't that account for the lack of hair?
I think he was refering to the photo of himself as a cadet Picard had, where he was bald there too.
Ah, I see. And in "All Good Things" Picard definitely had hair as a cadet. Got it. More proof that AGT was nothing but a Q-induced halucination.

When did Picard appear as a Cadet in All Good Things?

I remember seeing with hair in other flash backs but not All Good Things.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-05-11 12:12am

TheDarkling wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:I think he was refering to the photo of himself as a cadet Picard had, where he was bald there too.
Ah, I see. And in "All Good Things" Picard definitely had hair as a cadet. Got it. More proof that AGT was nothing but a Q-induced halucination.
When did Picard appear as a Cadet in All Good Things?

I remember seeing with hair in other flash backs but not All Good Things.

I think they meant the episode "Tapestry" it has been awhile since I watched that episode, but I think that they briefly showed him as a young cadet before they put the old man(Stewart) in the cadet uniform.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-05-12 12:51pm

Death from the Sea wrote:I think they meant the episode "Tapestry" it has been awhile since I watched that episode, but I think that they briefly showed him as a young cadet before they put the old man(Stewart) in the cadet uniform.

I probably remembered something wrong. My bad.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-05-13 07:00am

brothersinarm wrote:I don't know if this was ever brought up, so sorry if I'm just repeating what someone has already came up with this.

I was just watching TNG episode "Unnatural Selection" where Polaski (medical doctor) was affect by something to cause her to age. Then the crew using her original Unmodified DNA in junction with the Transporter reverted her back to her natural self. I'm not sure if the writers of that episode meant for this loophole to happen, but wouldn't it be possible for people to use sample of DNA, let us say from when they were teenagers, and use that to revert themselves to that age. I mean the process definitely didn't affect Polaski's memory, so people could become young again without losing their memory. Just a thought.

It happened in the TNG episode "rascals" where picard, ro laren, guinan and keiko all became 12 year old children. They were fine untill their shuttle encountered an anomaly and when they were beamed out they were all children. After extensive research Dr Crusher found that the a fault with the transporter misread their RNA and materialized them into 12 year olds. She later reversed the process but it was also clear that the federation has clear understanding of the process to repeat it. Though picard and others became children their mental conditions and memory was intact. Surprisingly they chose not stay this way. Instead of taking the chance to experience life as a young one again with all the wisdom of his previous life guiding him picard decided to reverse the process and become a bald old man again. The others did the same. It is clear this is a matter of personal choice as the technology is there but the federation has intentionaly closed the chance of a great oppurtunity to immortalise itself.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-05-13 10:20pm

It makes you wonder something.

Presumably, Starfleet has RNA records for there membership at various ages, thanks to medical records.

If not, grow a clone, and you get the RNA.

Why are they not requiring older starfleet officers to undergo "Youth Transportation" to get more out of them? Or offering it as part of retirement. You know "you gave your life to protect the Federation, so the Federation is giving you a chance to live a life as part of it"

Jawawithagun · Post by **Jawawithagun** » 2003-05-15 10:28am

experience and more knowledge are set off by alzheimer and the like. rejuvenated people might start to think for themself and notice all the bullshit the Fed's pulling. so they are just brainwashed into not thinking about it

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