What will happen to professor Moriarti?

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-06-21 05:33pm

Will Moriarti ever know he is in a "matrix", will he ever escape from it?

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-06-21 05:34pm

What u mean the box they put him in??
As far as i know he was never heard of again.
According to the star trek encyclopedia he was only in two episodes "elementry Dear Data" and "ship in a bottle"

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-21 05:36pm

And there is enough virtual worlds to keep him busy forever.

HappyTarget · Post by **HappyTarget** » 2003-06-21 05:43pm

IIRC didn't Moriarti WILLINGLY go into the computer box?

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2003-06-21 05:46pm

HappyTarget wrote:IIRC didn't Moriarti WILLINGLY go into the computer box?

No, they tricked him into thinking that they were making him real through the magic of treknobable.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-06-21 06:05pm

Removed because I just realized I missed something.

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2003-06-21 06:07pm

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote: No, they tricked him into thinking that they were making him real through the magic of treknobable.

Yep, he pretty much thought that he was real since he "stepped out" onto the real Enterprise which wasn't really the Enterprise, and then they "gave" him a shuttlecraft to go where he pleased with his wife.

But what I can't remember is was the computer program left running in the E-D computer core, or was it actually a small portable box? If it was left running in the Enterprise, I'd imagine that he would've died when the ship was destroyed.

HappyTarget · Post by **HappyTarget** » 2003-06-21 06:37pm

No, he was definately in a computer box.

Just wasn't sure weather he entered willingly or was tricked

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-21 07:58pm

Unless they decide to hook up that little box to another computer, I doubt he would be able to escape. It's like a virus can't escape a computer unless you supply a medium for it to.

Equinox2003 · Post by **Equinox2003** » 2003-06-21 09:24pm

I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-06-21 09:28pm

Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.

Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-06-21 09:44pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.

And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-21 09:53pm

Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.

I would think that Picard would have logged it when they did it. And that nobody would just randomly access stuff without first knowing what's in it.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-22 02:12am

Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Equinox2003 wrote:I always thought he was wiped out along with the Enterprise D,
since he was part of the Holo programs they had on that ship.
Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.

I think you see that prop when Picard os going through the wreckage looking for his family album.

DarthBlight · Post by **DarthBlight** » 2003-06-22 04:46pm

I always think that eventually, Moriarty will hit a wall or something in that box and sit there going "What the . . ." for a few minutes before realizing Picard got the better of him.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-06-22 09:13pm

I honestly don't think he'd give a rat's ass.

He has what he wants, freedom. Sure, it's "Matrix Freedom", but it's still freedom.

either that, or he'd find a way to alter the program so he and his wife live forever, and then finds a way to get out into a computer, build mobile emitors, and go "nah nah nah nah" to Pichard.

And then get arrested for hijacking a Federation ship and kidnapping officers...

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-06-23 01:49am

There was another Moriarty episode?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-06-23 01:59am

Vympel wrote:There was another Moriarty episode?

Only "Elementary Dear Data" and "Ship in a Bottle".

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-06-23 02:22am

Ah see I've never seen Ship in a Bottle, only Elementary my Dear Data.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-06-23 12:30pm

I would believe Moriarty's Box would be sent to Dr. Zimmerman for study in his program for creating EMHs...hey, a criminal sentient hologram is better to study than starting from scratch.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-06-26 02:33am

Who says they kept it on the Enterprise? Surely some people would want to study the whole "artificial sentient being out of nowhere" thing that Moriarty is... hell, that may very well be where Starfleet got the EMH and what-not.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2003-06-26 07:55am

Uraniun235 wrote:Who says they kept it on the Enterprise? Surely some people would want to study the whole "artificial sentient being out of nowhere" thing that Moriarty is... hell, that may very well be where Starfleet got the EMH and what-not.

We have no idea what happened to him. His box for all we know is still sitting on the desk of Captian Picard in the left over reckage!

MrAnderson · Post by **MrAnderson** » 2003-06-26 09:23am

Enola Straight wrote:I would believe Moriarty's Box would be sent to Dr. Zimmerman for study in his program for creating EMHs...hey, a criminal sentient hologram is better to study than starting from scratch.

This sounds like the most likely explanation so far. Though of course the safest and smartest explanation would be to take that black box and phaser it into nothing just to be on the safe side.

But then when did ST ever do anything that was on the safe side.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-06-26 02:17pm

neoolong wrote:
Montcalm wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote: Except that he and his wife (?) were in a seperate box that wasn't part of the main computer. It was a self contained unit.
And whoever picked it up when the salvage crew got on what was left of E-D may not know whats in.
I would think that Picard would have logged it when they did it. And that nobody would just randomly access stuff without first knowing what's in it.

*cough* This is Trek we're talking about here . . . the same yahoos who willingly upload and execute strange code onto their computers, in spite of seeing the nasty effects it had on other ships (i.e. the Yamato or one of the 234343 bizarre artifacts they routinely pick up and plug in.)

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-06-26 02:51pm

Maybe they learned from their mistakes?

Ok. That sounds implausible even to me.