Ok so we agreeSpanky The Dolphin wrote:That's pretty much exactly what I've been arguing for in this thread: that the Mirror Universe is not a deviation from the main timeline but is rather a seperate, parallel universe.
"In a Mirror, Darkly" Reviews
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After noting some of the reviews for part 2 I just watched a tape of part 1 and will need to catch the repeat or find a tape of part 2.
Was pretty impressed, weak acting, but still the most fun I've had with Enterprise and the first episode I've watched in full since season 1.
About the opening credits...we see a man on the moon in the Empire space suit, so its possible they never landed on the moon in the 1960's in the mirror universe. However, the opening credits also have stock footage of the Saturn V.
Anyone care to speculate what the heck the Saturn V was used for then in the Mirror Universe? It's impractically huge to be an ICBM. I'd like to think it might have been a tie back to the TOS ep "Gary Seven" where a Saturn V was going to be used to put a weapons platform in orbit.
Was pretty impressed, weak acting, but still the most fun I've had with Enterprise and the first episode I've watched in full since season 1.
About the opening credits...we see a man on the moon in the Empire space suit, so its possible they never landed on the moon in the 1960's in the mirror universe. However, the opening credits also have stock footage of the Saturn V.
Anyone care to speculate what the heck the Saturn V was used for then in the Mirror Universe? It's impractically huge to be an ICBM. I'd like to think it might have been a tie back to the TOS ep "Gary Seven" where a Saturn V was going to be used to put a weapons platform in orbit.
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"If you're falling off a cliff you may as well try to fly, you've got nothing to lose." - John Sheridan (Babylon 5)
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Not exactly, because I don't think that Enterprise itself is set in a diverging or alternate timeline. There's no evidence for that, other than bullshit crap based on nitpickish construction.Admiral_K wrote:Ok so we agreeSpanky The Dolphin wrote:That's pretty much exactly what I've been arguing for in this thread: that the Mirror Universe is not a deviation from the main timeline but is rather a seperate, parallel universe.
To me the Mirror Universe was always seperate from the normal timeline.
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No evidence? I suppose you're going to say now that "Regeneration" was bullshit crap based on nitpickish construction?
Heck, even Voyager referenced the "Borg presence at first contact."
If all this was established history, why was everyone so suprised to see the Borg in TNG? The answer is because the Borg's visit to first contact was a direct result of time travel interferance by the 24th century Borg & E-E.
Even TNG itself isn't depicting one continuous timeline. Or do you mean that the new timeline created in "First Contact" (the film) is the same timeline as Enterprise? That would seem logical.
What I mean is, we it doesn't seem logical to conclude that all of canon Trek is one timeline, or that TOS and Enterprise share the same timeline.
I wouldn't say that (as some of the boobyprise haters have speculated) Enterprise is therefore none-canon, just that it's part of a "divergent timeline" according to those canon indicators, although Trek itself is composed of several timelines.
Now as per your statements about the "Mirror Universe" I agree with you. It wasn't created by some anomaly or time traveler, it was always "evil" and parallel with the "good" universe we're used to seeing.
Heck, even Voyager referenced the "Borg presence at first contact."
If all this was established history, why was everyone so suprised to see the Borg in TNG? The answer is because the Borg's visit to first contact was a direct result of time travel interferance by the 24th century Borg & E-E.
Even TNG itself isn't depicting one continuous timeline. Or do you mean that the new timeline created in "First Contact" (the film) is the same timeline as Enterprise? That would seem logical.
What I mean is, we it doesn't seem logical to conclude that all of canon Trek is one timeline, or that TOS and Enterprise share the same timeline.
I wouldn't say that (as some of the boobyprise haters have speculated) Enterprise is therefore none-canon, just that it's part of a "divergent timeline" according to those canon indicators, although Trek itself is composed of several timelines.
Now as per your statements about the "Mirror Universe" I agree with you. It wasn't created by some anomaly or time traveler, it was always "evil" and parallel with the "good" universe we're used to seeing.
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Yes. Yes yes yes yes with fries and a shovel.Kurgan wrote:Or do you mean that the new timeline created in "First Contact" (the film) is the same timeline as Enterprise?
I believe in a sign of Zeta.
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Enterprise being in an alternate timeline is really the only thing that justifies how it differentiates from many of the known events from TOS. Yes I know you can call it "bad writing", but on the flip side suspension of disbelief contends that it must be how it appears. Therefore, if it isn't an alternate timeline, what else could it possibly be?Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yes. Yes yes yes yes with fries and a shovel.Kurgan wrote:Or do you mean that the new timeline created in "First Contact" (the film) is the same timeline as Enterprise?
Every single episode of trek "time travel" as actually an incident of dimension shifting. It is the only thing that can explain the numerous paradoxes and inconsistencies seen in the various series.