Berman on Trek

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-26 12:50pm

At first, I merely disliked Enterprise. The dislike grew and grew, and when it became apparent that Enterprise was partially responsible for the death of Firefly, that dislike grew into a raging hatred, and once I watched 'Maurader', marveling at the insane, agonizing stupidity, it let loose the floodgates.

When the revolution comes, Braga will be the first against the wall.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-26 01:23pm

I quit on that series after "Dear Doctor". Unless it becomes "The T'Pol and Hoshi Lesbian Debauchery Hour", I won't watch it again.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-26 01:45pm

This just adds more credibility to the argument that analyzing anything in Star Trek is simply impossible due to lack of internal consistency.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-01-26 02:37pm

RedImperator wrote:I quit on that series after "Dear Doctor". Unless it becomes "The T'Pol and Hoshi Lesbian Debauchery Hour", I won't watch it again.

"Dear Doctor" almost made me puke in it's hypocrisy.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-26 02:42pm

It's sad that the majority of Trek fanfic writers pay far more attention to consistency with existing canon continuity than the fucking producers of the show.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-01-26 02:46pm

Sad but true.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-01-27 05:35pm

Darth Wong wrote:It's sad that the majority of Trek fanfic writers pay far more attention to consistency with existing canon continuity than the fucking producers of the show.

Yeah, it's sad when the producers will say outright that they don't care about continuity.
""The continuity of the show is completely haphazard. It’s haphazard by design. It’s not like they are trying desperately to maintain continuity of the show. They don’t care, and they’ll tell you flat out that they don’t care." -Ron Moore

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-02-01 11:55am

NF_Utvol wrote:Well, any hope for Enterprise redeeming itself has just been flushed down the toilet. Berman stated that he is 'no longer worried about any scientific aspects of Enterprise'.

Was he ever concerned about it in the first place?

Why don't they just cancel the fucking show and be done with it.

boggy b · Post by **boggy b** » 2003-02-01 07:45pm

The only way I can see Enterprise ending properly is if the Krenim Timeship somehow comes along and erases it from history

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-01 10:41pm

Not even I care about big boobs that much, and I am still in high school and look at Playboy (notice I didn't say read.) I personally and getting tired of waiting for the Romulan War. This show makes no sense. it condricts the origional series by saying that it was the first long trem mission. This whole thing got fucked up the moment Mr. Roddenberry died. B&B didn't even wait for the coffin to be lowered to start to make hippie bullshit. I am sorry for just insulting hippies.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-01 11:40pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:B&B didn't even wait for the coffin to be lowered to start to make hippie bullshit. I am sorry for just insulting hippies.

The early seasons of TNG were Roddenberry's specific creation. If you see 'hippie bullshit' there, blame him not B&B. Until Voyager, B&B simply continued within the guidelines that Roddenberry created.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-01 11:47pm

Yes, but you must admit that they show lost some of it's spark when he died.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-02-02 12:20am

RedImperator wrote:I quit on that series after "Dear Doctor". Unless it becomes "The T'Pol and Hoshi Lesbian Debauchery Hour", I won't watch it again.

Wow, talk about endurance, I quit watching after they showed a klingon(seriously)

Rhoades · Post by **Rhoades** » 2003-02-02 04:50pm

anarchistbunny wrote:
RedImperator wrote:I quit on that series after "Dear Doctor". Unless it becomes "The T'Pol and Hoshi Lesbian Debauchery Hour", I won't watch it again.
Wow, talk about endurance, I quit watching after they showed a klingon(seriously)

But, wouldn't that be the opening scene of Broken Bow?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-02 06:31pm

Precisely.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-02-02 10:02pm

Rhoades wrote:
anarchistbunny wrote:
RedImperator wrote:I quit on that series after "Dear Doctor". Unless it becomes "The T'Pol and Hoshi Lesbian Debauchery Hour", I won't watch it again.
Wow, talk about endurance, I quit watching after they showed a klingon(seriously)
But, wouldn't that be the opening scene of Broken Bow?

If that was the name of the first episode than yes.

Setesh · Post by **Setesh** » 2003-02-03 01:23am

Admiral Johnason wrote:Not even I care about big boobs that much, and I am still in high school and look at Playboy (notice I didn't say read.) I personally and getting tired of waiting for the Romulan War. This show makes no sense. it condricts the origional series by saying that it was the first long trem mission. This whole thing got fucked up the moment Mr. Roddenberry died. B&B didn't even wait for the coffin to be lowered to start to make hippie bullshit. I am sorry for just insulting hippies.

Roddy was cremated and his remains are in orbit as we type. Not joking.

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-02-03 02:02pm

Yes. He met the same fate as Carl Sagan.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 02:19pm

Actually, only a small portion of his ashes were sent into orbit (along with those of a bunch of other people). I think they might have burned up by now.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2003-02-03 09:19pm

I don't watch Enterprise- what was so bad about this "Dear Doctor" episode people are talking about?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-03 09:24pm

Silver wrote:I don't watch Enterprise- what was so bad about this "Dear Doctor" episode people are talking about?

The doctor and captain end up colluding to commmit genocide. And don't see why it was wrong.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-03 09:28pm

And add to that...they think because a lesser species is already there and show signs of intelligence...they are obviously the true race instead of the superior one who have been helping the lesser race survival

There's B&B logic for ya.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-04 05:41pm

I've said it before; I'll say it again: I should take over writing Enterprise. It would be difficult to pull it out of the sewer B&B have dragged it into... but I love a challenge.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-04 06:19pm

The franchise of Star Trek has become excellent evidense that ghost do not exist. This is because if ghost did exist, Gene Roddenbury would have come back in spirit form by now and delievered a horrible death to B&B.

B&B are still alive; therefore there is no such thing as ghost.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-02-04 06:36pm

While I might not have agreed with all of Roddenberry's views, he did a million times better at Trek than B&B. I am most sure he would role over in his grave (or space capsule, if ashes can roll over, that is

) if he knew what was going on with Trek.

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