The Star Trek trailer
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Aboard a ship scheduled to be decommissioned, to boot.
I'm intrigued by the description of the trailer. Scuttlebutt is that it airs in front of Bond, so here's hoping that much of the rumor is true.
I'm intrigued by the description of the trailer. Scuttlebutt is that it airs in front of Bond, so here's hoping that much of the rumor is true.
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Spoilers, 4 full scenes described from press viewing:
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This is not your father's Star Trek.
I don't know what to think of these scenes - either they will be the coolest thing on celluloid next year or the most cringe-inducing bore-fest since Nemesis. Somehow I don't see much of a middle ground between them happening.
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I don't know what to think of these scenes - either they will be the coolest thing on celluloid next year or the most cringe-inducing bore-fest since Nemesis. Somehow I don't see much of a middle ground between them happening.
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Also...
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Yeah, you can see some hardline Trekkies are going to savage the details like:
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and as for:
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Should have known that would get played for lulz.
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Can't blame them for that. It is his trademark.
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Well, Chekov being there clashes so hard with the "old" canon that I thought this would get the most flak. I just checked the dates, Chekov is born 2245, while Kirk is born 2233. Kirk enters the academy in 2250 and finishes 2254, while Chekov finishes the academy some time in the 2260s.
I mean, I get the "people love the whole crew" aspect, but this is just impossible to cram into the old canon, so if this movie is not meant as a reboot, will trekkies ever accept it?
Besides that,
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I mean, I get the "people love the whole crew" aspect, but this is just impossible to cram into the old canon, so if this movie is not meant as a reboot, will trekkies ever accept it?
Besides that,
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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TrekMovie got a screening of the trailer. It's a long article, but this jumped out at me:
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Canon answers for all? Either Abrams is terribly optimistic or he's got a major plot surprise in the works.
The review in a nutshell does sound promising:
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Canon answers for all? Either Abrams is terribly optimistic or he's got a major plot surprise in the works.
The review in a nutshell does sound promising:
So does this trailer settle all issues and ensure a fantastic Star Trek film? No, of course not. I can still foresee many possible roadblocks for either the mainstream audience or the installed base. But this trailer is still fun and thrilling and only makes me want to see and learn more (and I imagine the same will be true for those action movie Bond fans who see it this weekend). Bottom line is that this trailer will send the message loud and clear to fan and newbie alike — there is a new Star Trek in town, and it means business.
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I can't understand the enthusiasm based on these leaks. This sounds absolutely awful.
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I think this is the best part of the 20 minute screening, from a different article
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Also, a critical plot detail should be mentioned that makes the early scenes with Kirk make sense. Spoiler
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Fucking hell. This sounds positively awful.
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And it goes downhill from there.
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Thanatos, that doesn't solve the problem.
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And then Iceman will look into his eyes with barely controlled homoerotic longing and say "you can be my wingman any time".
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Yes, folks, this morning's reading has conviced me that this movie will be bad. Very bad. I wonder if it'll manage to be even worse than Nemesis...
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At least Nemesis didn't butcher the characters we knew and, err, loved. But I don't get howNecronLord wrote:Yes, folks, this morning's reading has conviced me that this movie will be bad. Very bad. I wonder if it'll manage to be even worse than Nemesis...
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Unfortunately, that's a classic Hollywood cliche.
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The same was true of Picard. Remember the episode where Q gives Picard a chance not to get involved in a bar fight where he looses his heart? Apparently by deciding not to fight Picard ended up as a mere ensign on Enterprise. The point being that it is actually necessary to act like an irresponsible idiot in your youth if you are to be a great leader.
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Actually, Paris was demoted because he disobeyed orders and Voyager had to flee for their lives from the pissed off natives.
He eventually got his stripes back because they didn't exactly have a large amount of officers.
Still, TOS Federation has captains with an obscene amount of power- you don't put that in the hands of a person unless they have shown consistent and repeated self control. These aren't like naval warships or fighter planes- they can sterilize worlds!
He eventually got his stripes back because they didn't exactly have a large amount of officers.
Still, TOS Federation has captains with an obscene amount of power- you don't put that in the hands of a person unless they have shown consistent and repeated self control. These aren't like naval warships or fighter planes- they can sterilize worlds!
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To be fair, Kirk was never the most cool headed individual. He made some glaring mistakes (like not raising shields in WoK), and he was too militaristic even by todays standards (didn't he almost order the total bombardment of a civilized world that wasn't even at war with the Federation?)Samuel wrote:Actually, Paris was demoted because he disobeyed orders and Voyager had to flee for their lives from the pissed off natives.
He eventually got his stripes back because they didn't exactly have a large amount of officers.
Still, TOS Federation has captains with an obscene amount of power- you don't put that in the hands of a person unless they have shown consistent and repeated self control. These aren't like naval warships or fighter planes- they can sterilize worlds!
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If you mean Emeniar Seven, it was holding hostages, and was actively attempting to force a UFP crew and an ambassador into a disintegration chamber. What's more, an actual attack would have killed no more people than the Emeniaran government killed in its simulated attacks (G.O. 24 is far from 'sterilisation') but would have broken their ability to make war and continue excecuting masses of their citizens.The Romulan Republic wrote:To be fair, Kirk was never the most cool headed individual. He made some glaring mistakes (like not raising shields in WoK), and he was too militaristic even by todays standards (didn't he almost order the total bombardment of a civilized world that wasn't even at war with the Federation?)
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Well interfering in their culture to protect his ship would be a Prime Directive violation would it not? Besides, if I remember correctly, the ship could have left. The only ones who would have died would have been him and a few others, who would have died anyway in a bombardment.NecronLord wrote:If you mean Emeniar Seven, it was holding hostages, and was actively attempting to force a UFP crew and an ambassador into a disintegration chamber. What's more, an actual attack would have killed no more people than the Emeniaran government killed in its simulated attacks (G.O. 24 is far from 'sterilisation') but would have broken their ability to make war and continue excecuting masses of their citizens.The Romulan Republic wrote:To be fair, Kirk was never the most cool headed individual. He made some glaring mistakes (like not raising shields in WoK), and he was too militaristic even by todays standards (didn't he almost order the total bombardment of a civilized world that wasn't even at war with the Federation?)
As to weather destroying their civilization in a mass bombardment would have been better than perpetual low level war fair, I disagree. Kirk's basically saying: "stop killing each other or I'll wipe you all out." It's like solving the Israel/Palestine conflict by threatening to glass the Middle East. The cure is worse than the disease. Nor in my opinion was it Kirk's place to make that decision.
I think Kirk was probably better than a lot of other fools Star Fleet put in command, but this one's a real stain on his record.
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Didn't have the Prime Directive than.
As for the bombardment, Kirk was bluffing... maybe. However, killing an ambassador is an act of war and the Enterprise is a warship- he would have been justified reducing them and the threat they posed to the Federation.
As for the bombardment, Kirk was bluffing... maybe. However, killing an ambassador is an act of war and the Enterprise is a warship- he would have been justified reducing them and the threat they posed to the Federation.