IIRC the Cardies had no cloaking device till sometime around TDIC, and the Feds couldn't use it due to Treaty of Algeron.Wrath wrote:yeah but fitting that missile with a cloaking device instead of all those weapons and shields would mean they could increase the pay load I would have thoughtSPOOFE wrote: The Cardassians thought of that, and their design was HUGE (and carried a relatively tiny payload, t'boot).
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In "The Emissary" (the TNG episode, not the DS9 quasi-religious figure), Worf's girlfriend caught a long-range ride in a photorp. That means a photorp has enough long-range capability to do interstellar travel while retaining an internal cavity large enough for a human body: good enough for a midsized warhead.Alyeska wrote:That would require putting drive systems on a torpedo. They would become nothing more then warp pods, shuttles with anti-matter containment systems. I think those would be easier to intercept. However, if you can speed them up to a point where interception is difficult, such a weapon system would be nice.Darth Wong wrote:Three words: long range torpedoes.
As for interception, the soliton wave shows up on sensors as a large wavefront and can be dispersed with photon torpedoes, so I don't see why it would be any more difficult to intercept than a long-range photorp.
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*If* it works the way their cursory examination *might* indicate. *If* they're able to recreate it. *If* they're able to control it.JodoForce wrote:Since accident caused this warp shell to become so dangerous in the eyes of the Enterprise crew, it's quite plausible that if further research was made to make the warp shell *deliberately* feed on subspace as much as possible, it could become a planet-killer weapon.
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Keh'lyr was actually riding in a "class 8 probe", as I recall, but its dimensions were indistinguishable from those of a photon torpedo, so that's an insignificant nitpick.Darth Wong wrote:In "The Emissary" (the TNG episode, not the DS9 quasi-religious figure), Worf's girlfriend caught a long-range ride in a photorp. That means a photorp has enough long-range capability to do interstellar travel while retaining an internal cavity large enough for a human body: good enough for a midsized warhead.
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SPOOFE wrote:The Cardassians thought of that, and their design was HUGE (and carried a relatively tiny payload, t'boot).That would require putting drive systems on a torpedo. They would become nothing more then warp pods, shuttles with anti-matter containment systems.
But that's because they decided to make it into an automated warship.
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