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The World as seen by Berman & Braga

Posted: 2003-01-12 07:21pm
by Uraniun235
What if someone made a show like that?

I have this image of some poor restaurant cashier dying a grisly, flaming death after his cash register exploded in his face because of an errant power surge.

And of a nuclear reactor... person thingy guy, using insane amounts of technobabble (well, there was a verteron surge in the triaxilating subspace coils, causing a covariant misalignment of the ODN junction...) to explain a simple problem, and it takes him so much time that the reactor explodes like a nuclear bomb.

Oh sure, it wouldn't get past the second show because by then the Earth would be destroyed, but it'd be hilarious.

Posted: 2003-01-12 07:25pm
by Sea Skimmer
The B&B world would be a dieing rock by 1900

Posted: 2003-01-12 08:08pm
by Darth Wong
I can just imagine the tactics employed in WW2 if B&B wrote it:

"OK everyone, fix bayonets, forget armour or artillery or air support, and run screaming toward the enemy!"

"Look out, the Nazis are dropping their guns and pulling out knives. We're really screwed now!"

"Holy shit, that howitzer shell landed just three feet away. I think he's been knocked unconscious! Don't worry, he'll come around in about ten minutes."

Ackk, it's too horrible to contemplate any further.

Posted: 2003-01-12 08:26pm
by Jadeite
Ugh, imagine what B&B would do to cars in that situation.

Posted: 2003-01-12 08:53pm
by Howedar
Darth Wong wrote:I can just imagine the tactics employed in WW2 if B&B wrote it:

"OK everyone, fix bayonets, forget armour or artillery or air support, and run screaming toward the enemy!"

"Look out, the Nazis are dropping their guns and pulling out knives. We're really screwed now!"

"Holy shit, that howitzer shell landed just three feet away. I think he's been knocked unconscious! Don't worry, he'll come around in about ten minutes."

Ackk, it's too horrible to contemplate any further.
You know full well that they don't use bayonets.

Posted: 2003-01-12 08:53pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Darth Wong wrote: "Look out, the Nazis are dropping their guns and pulling out knives. We're really screwed now!"

IIRC a similar thing happened in Voyager "Killing Game." A WWII and a Klingon program were together. Naturally, the Klingons came charging in, waving bat'leths. Did the Germans mow them down with MG-42 fire? No! They stood up and got hacked to pieces


Imagine Normandy:

Ship XOSir, the costal batteries are tearing up the fleet!
Ship Captain: Oh no!
Ship Sensor Officer (they exist right?): Wait sir, the guns have no shells! They're all being fed from a central building!
Captain: Destroy it!
Senor Officer: The armour's too thick!
XO: Maybe we can project an American radar signature on it!
Captain: Then the costal batteries will attack it! Make it so!


Imagine Vietnam:

Platoon Captain: Alright people, the chopper's coming in! It need's covering fire!

Imagine Desert Storm

Iraqi Officer: Oh no! The Americans are deploying Dune Buggies!
Sadam Hussein: We're doomed! Our T-72s with their 125mm guns are useless!

Posted: 2003-01-12 11:39pm
by Frank Hipper
The cruise of the C.S.S. Alabama according to B&B;

Confederate crewman "Captain Semmes, there's a yankee brig off our port bow and they're staying sails and lowering their flag, what should we do?"

Raphael Semmes " They must be in distress, send the doctor and some supplies in a longboat to see what we can do."

Posted: 2003-01-13 01:26am
by Enlightenment
Gulf War III, with Shrubby leading US forces from the front lines....

Wait. That'd be a good thing.

Posted: 2003-01-13 01:35am
by Dennis Toy
Remember that video of the explosion at the chemical plant in Henderson NV back in 1988 that i showed you all, here what it would look like under B&B.

SOmewhere in Henderson NV May 1988...

Plant Workers playing cards...
bet ya an ace for a
(Red alert klaxons, light dim)
Plant worker one: Theres a fire, the halon system is down, we can't get power to the sprinklers.
Plant worker two: I can stop the fire, i can rig up a phased suppresive suspension to stop that fire.
Plant Worker one: No time we gotta....
Plant Worker two: I have it just one more adjustment to the amplifid electro-copper system....
Plant Worker one: COME ON...
Plant Worker two: I CAN'T I gotts stop the fire......Its not working the main computer is down, i could just...

KAPPPOOOWWWWWW!!!

The PLANT EXPLODES IN A MINI-MUSHROOM CLOUD

(People up on the mountain)
Oooh thats gonna be loud.......
(KABBOOMM)

No one in the regulatory commission learns anything from it and chemical plants continue to explode in the US for the next 15 years.

Posted: 2003-01-13 01:36am
by Vympel
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
IIRC a similar thing happened in Voyager "Killing Game." A WWII and a Klingon program were together. Naturally, the Klingons came charging in, waving bat'leths. Did the Germans mow them down with MG-42 fire? No! They stood up and got hacked to pieces
WHAT THE FUCK. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!

Posted: 2003-01-13 01:41am
by neoolong
Vympel wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
IIRC a similar thing happened in Voyager "Killing Game." A WWII and a Klingon program were together. Naturally, the Klingons came charging in, waving bat'leths. Did the Germans mow them down with MG-42 fire? No! They stood up and got hacked to pieces
WHAT THE FUCK. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!
Unfortunately, no. Don't bother trying to watch it, it's just plain stupid.

Posted: 2003-01-13 02:53am
by Patrick Degan
In a Berman Braga world, the most common household appliances and mechanical devices would all have the potential to explode or cause its user to spontaneously combust at any time, would have user and service manuals five times thicker than they already are, would run off of live plasma conduits, and require a major repair effort simply to swap out any single part. Service techs would never be able to communicate in any language other than technospeak and take five minutes to outline the simplest problem.

Nobody would know how to actually fix anything. Instead, they'd have to concoct theories as to how the Mr. Coffee might function, the nature of each of the several dozen possible faults being considered which all would involve weird excursions into the more esoteric branches of quantum physics, and experiment to find the best way to correct the secondary filtration interface blockage.

And imagine how many coils, loops, and tertiary bypasses would be incorporated into the plumbing for the average household toilet —which itself would be computer controlled and plasma-operated.

In short, the car, the home, and even a construction-site Port o'Let, would all be fatal accidents just waiting to happen at any time.

Posted: 2003-01-13 08:49pm
by Uraniun235
I know.

Wouldn't that be hilarious to film? :)

Posted: 2003-01-13 10:10pm
by Alyeska
Just a little word of caution. B&B might be idiots, and most of Voyager might have been REALLY bad with Enterprise following in its foot steps, but don't let this become a Trek bashing thread.

Posted: 2003-01-13 10:35pm
by RedImperator
It's not a Trek-bashing thread. It's a B&B bashing thread. If the TOS creative team did a show about the real world, all the women would be young, hot, and in miniskirts, and everybody's auto mechanic would have a Scottish accent. And everone would wear vellour tunics with bellbottom pants. Okay, the last part would suck. But the first two would be cool.

Posted: 2003-01-13 10:45pm
by Glocksman
B&B on December 7, 1941:

Aide: 'Mr. President! The Japanese have attacked Pearl Harbor and sank the Pacific Fleet!"


FDR: 'My God! Order the military to stand down at once. Contact the State Department and tell them to start negotiations with the Japanese Ambassador! Perhaps we can keep this unfortunate misunderstanding from becoming a war'

Posted: 2003-01-13 11:12pm
by jaeger115
Imagine what would have happened in a B&B world with the Space Shuttle Challenger!

*challenger explodes onscreen in mission control*

(Flight Director: AACCKKK! how did that happen?

Chief Engineer: I believe that the explosion was caused by a random breach in the bulkheads in the fuel tanks, which let antimatter leak out and ignite the whole atmosphere...)

:twisted:

Posted: 2003-01-13 11:23pm
by Master of Ossus
B&B, regarding Enterprise's premier.

Berman: I think fans are going to be really excited about this new show.

Braga: I know! The writing's great. The acting's great. The special effects are great. What could go wrong?

Berman: Nothing. That's why we deserve a raise.

Braga: Okay.

Posted: 2003-01-14 12:07am
by jaeger115
B&B, regarding Enterprise's premier.

Berman: I think fans are going to be really excited about this new show.

Braga: I know! The writing's great. The acting's great. The special effects are great. What could go wrong?

Berman: Nothing. That's why we deserve a raise.

Braga: Okay.
Fucking idiots. They should ask themselves if Enterprise also upholds real science like Trek is supposed to. (yeah right!) :roll:

Posted: 2003-01-14 12:38am
by Sea Skimmer
jaeger115 wrote:Imagine what would have happened in a B&B world with the Space Shuttle Challenger!

*challenger explodes onscreen in mission control*

(Flight Director: AACCKKK! how did that happen?

Chief Engineer: I believe that the explosion was caused by a random breach in the bulkheads in the fuel tanks, which let antimatter leak out and ignite the whole atmosphere...)

:twisted:
All of mission controls computers would explode as well from the feed back through the radio system.

Posted: 2003-01-14 12:42am
by AdmiralKanos
In B&B Earth, there would have been a timeout during the Battle of Jutland so that each ship's captain could hold a conference meeting in a boardroom near the bridge, where he requests advice from his XO, a psychologist, his chief engineer, and a medical doctor.

EDIT: And the goddamned ship's cook, too.

Posted: 2003-01-14 12:49am
by Ghost Rider
On B&B we would have elongated explainations for every and anything...and smart toasters would probably be regarded as sentient.

Posted: 2003-01-14 02:59am
by consequences
Hey, Given that God is infinite, and Space is also infinite, would you like a toasted tea cake? :)

Posted: 2003-01-14 03:03am
by The Dark
Frank Hipper wrote:The cruise of the C.S.S. Alabama according to B&B;

Confederate crewman "Captain Semmes, there's a yankee brig off our port bow and they're staying sails and lowering their flag, what should we do?"

Raphael Semmes " They must be in distress, send the doctor and some supplies in a longboat to see what we can do."
Actually, something somewhat like this happened at Fort Sumter. The first shot fired was a training accident (crew forgot to check the cannon after live fire drills, retrained the gun and shot at the fort). The Confederates sent a delegation of officers, including a doctor, to apologize and make sure nobody was injured.

Posted: 2003-01-14 04:37pm
by Soulman
jaeger115 wrote: Fucking idiots. They should ask themselves if Enterprise also upholds real science like Trek is supposed to. (yeah right!) :roll:
TOS wasn't about science, it was about telling stories...