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Idea for Trek show
Posted: 2003-01-20 10:49am
by Slartibartfast
Here's the premise: a regular guy/girl from the 21st century gets somehow transported to the TNG/DS9/Voyager era (trapped in freezium carbide or sucked by a distortion, whatever). He ends up in a ship, this is just any regular show ship, with huge amounts of technobabble and far-fetched solutions for all problems.
The idea is that every time technobabble is going to be used as a copout ("If we polarize the nadion flow, there is a chance that the fuzzymetric compensators of the bunkhead will short out and open for exactly 28.3 seconds"), the guy will come and make remarks like "You just made that up!" or "Why don't we simply blow the door?". There will be much controversy about the guy's suggested methods for dealing with everything. Whenever common sense is used (his), it works. When technobabble is used, it might work but nothing ever goes exactly as planned (like in the shows).
I'm guessing this person would have to be a bit like Crichton from Farscape.
Re: Idea for Trek show
Posted: 2003-01-20 10:55am
by Anarchist Bunny
Slartibartfast wrote:Here's the premise: a regular guy/girl from the 21st century gets somehow transported to the TNG/DS9/Voyager era (trapped in freezium carbide or sucked by a distortion, whatever). He ends up in a ship, this is just any regular show ship, with huge amounts of technobabble and far-fetched solutions for all problems.
The idea is that every time technobabble is going to be used as a copout ("If we polarize the nadion flow, there is a chance that the fuzzymetric compensators of the bunkhead will short out and open for exactly 28.3 seconds"), the guy will come and make remarks like "You just made that up!" or "Why don't we simply blow the door?". There will be much controversy about the guy's suggested methods for dealing with everything. Whenever common sense is used (his), it works. When technobabble is used, it might work but nothing ever goes exactly as planned (like in the shows).
I'm guessing this person would have to be a bit like Crichton from Farscape.
Now the question is, how does Col. Jack O'Neil get from the SGC to the 24th century.
Re: Idea for Trek show
Posted: 2003-01-20 11:03am
by Coaan
anarchistbunny wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:Here's the premise: a regular guy/girl from the 21st century gets somehow transported to the TNG/DS9/Voyager era (trapped in freezium carbide or sucked by a distortion, whatever). He ends up in a ship, this is just any regular show ship, with huge amounts of technobabble and far-fetched solutions for all problems.
The idea is that every time technobabble is going to be used as a copout ("If we polarize the nadion flow, there is a chance that the fuzzymetric compensators of the bunkhead will short out and open for exactly 28.3 seconds"), the guy will come and make remarks like "You just made that up!" or "Why don't we simply blow the door?". There will be much controversy about the guy's suggested methods for dealing with everything. Whenever common sense is used (his), it works. When technobabble is used, it might work but nothing ever goes exactly as planned (like in the shows).
I'm guessing this person would have to be a bit like Crichton from Farscape.
Now the question is, how does Col. Jack O'Neil get from the SGC to the 24th century.
Gate accident?...stranger things have happened
Posted: 2003-01-20 12:58pm
by Slartibartfast
Yeah, it would be interesting except that O'Neil is too exagerated as a tech-ignorant. I mean most conversations would be very annoying:
"What's this old thing?"
"It's a replicator, it takes matter and changes its structure, producing any kind of..."
"ARggg! Too much techtalk! Head hurts! Say it in english!"
"Ok, you push button and say loudly what you want. Then glowy thingy appears and it turns into what you asked."
"You scientists and your toys..."
I was thinking more of a guy that could actually grasp a basic amount of real science and could tell when a guy is just making up big words or using actual science.
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:17pm
by Alyeska
This is nothing more then a Trek bashing thread. Off with you.
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:21pm
by Coaan
Trek is there to be bashed..brought it on itself really..
Crichton would work well I think though
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:23pm
by Alyeska
Coaan wrote:Trek is there to be bashed..brought it on itself really..
Keep that attitude up and your posts won't last long in the PST.
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:26pm
by Stormbringer
Alyeska wrote:Coaan wrote:Trek is there to be bashed..brought it on itself really..
Keep that attitude up and your posts won't last long in the PST.
Alyeska, this is Trek bashing yes. But it has a point and there's no reason to send it to the Hall of Shame.
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:26pm
by Coaan
Can you honestly say that the hours of treknobabble they spew is entertaining?
I am not dissing St...I did like the original films (save for no'five...did ANYONE like that?) but the series just went downhill from there
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:29pm
by AdmiralKanos
The thread's tone is a little hostile, but the idea is not completely without merit. I would like to see some Starfleet officers who act like real officers, and expect their subordinates to simply do their jobs without wasting time explaining the inner workings of the damned subspace field coil transducer blah blah blah.
The biggest problem is that the solution to a problem in Trek tends to be alteration of the ship in order to combat it. This is simply insane from both a technical and dramatic standpoint. You don't alter and redesign technological devices on the fly in response to an emergency; that's just asking for trouble. And dramatic situations are best served by using what you've got in an ingenious way, not by redesigning what you've got to add new capabilities. There's a reason people still make fun of MacGyver to this day.
Posted: 2003-01-20 01:32pm
by Alyeska
If there are things you dislike, aim at those instances, do not label the entirety of Star Trke and insult it as a whole. There is also a difference between criticizing aspects of Trek and merely bashing it as a whole.
Posted: 2003-01-20 03:39pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Alyeska's right, this is a silly thread.
But Trek has done stupid and flawed things in a vain attempt to push the series and the plots along ever since TOS ended and that's the truth.
Posted: 2003-01-20 05:05pm
by Stormbringer
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Alyeska's right, this is a silly thread.
But Trek has done stupid and flawed things in a vain attempt to push the series and the plots along ever since TOS ended and that's the truth.
Hey. The TOS movie were pretty damn good. ST6:UC is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.
Nu-Trek, egh, it's crap.
Posted: 2003-01-20 10:23pm
by kojikun
Alyeska, much as you have mod powers, Kanos has deemed this thread worthy of existing which means youre plum outta luck.
On topic:
I'd love to see this show. I agree, O'Neill needs to be the guy. Bring along Teal'c for fun. He's a Wars fan (WOO!) and I'm sure he'd LOVE to rip apart Trek
Posted: 2003-01-20 10:30pm
by Alyeska
kojikun wrote:Alyeska, much as you have mod powers, Kanos has deemed this thread worthy of existing which means youre plum outta luck.
You needn't remind me.
Posted: 2003-01-20 11:05pm
by Darth Wong
Alyeska wrote:kojikun wrote:Alyeska, much as you have mod powers, Kanos has deemed this thread worthy of existing which means youre plum outta luck.
You needn't remind me.
Actually, I wouldn't freak out if you locked it. I do believe in allowing mods some leeway, although I think locking/moving is usually a vastly preferable solution to deletion.
Posted: 2003-01-20 11:16pm
by Alyeska
Well, I
Did move it.
Posted: 2003-01-21 12:08am
by AdmiralKanos
You did? Does that mean it got bounced back to you like a hot potato? I guess you can always lock it
Posted: 2003-01-21 12:12am
by Alyeska
AdmiralKanos wrote:You did? Does that mean it got bounced back to you like a hot potato? I guess you can always lock it
I sent it to the HOS and Stormbringer bounced it back. I will leave it open for another day to see if anyone can post something slightly less insulting towards Trek, but is still in line with the topic itself.
Posted: 2003-01-21 12:15am
by AdmiralKanos
Well, I agree that it's a bit of a Trek-bashing thread but it's not so trollish that it belongs in the Hall of Shame (look at the other people in there; one must generally be an unrepentant liar or some other form of asshole to get one's thread in there). I would just lock it if I were you.
Posted: 2003-01-21 12:21am
by Master of Ossus
Forget this. I'll lock the darn thread. Nothing's been said, anyway.