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Boring Starship designs

Posted: 2003-01-21 03:35pm
by Dark Primus
It looks to me the people behind Star Trek ship designers are out of ideas when making new ships. Many are ugly looking, and very few I consider to be good looking or worth looking at.
The Shelley class, I guess its a frigate is one of the most ugly looking designs Feds are using in TNG/DS9 era. But on the opposite side are the good and cool looking Sovereign, Akira, Defiant etc, but they are not used very much (except for Defiant) I know fans have different tastes when it comes ships but I don't understand why B&B takes boring ship designs that are going to last around an entire series (Voyager, Akiraprise) and then brings out maybe one or two very good or cool looking ships that only is going to be seen once or maybe twice around the entire series

Well the series doesn't need good looking designs, but for me I love ships that are cool looking, doesn't matter to me if they look brittle. Even ST fans can make up better ST ship designs.

http://sfc3.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s= ... 1686055002

Edit: Take a good look at the ship that spins. :)

Posted: 2003-01-21 05:35pm
by Alyeska
Mackie is a member of that site... I shall stay away from there as if it were the plague itself.

Posted: 2003-01-21 06:56pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Yuck, I think Mackie should put the pipe down when he designs starships. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2003-01-21 07:09pm
by Dark Primus
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yuck, I think Mackie should put the pipe down when he designs starships. :mrgreen:
Well at least I think the ship named Armada is very good. :)

Posted: 2003-01-21 07:16pm
by Malecoda
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yuck, I think Mackie should put the pipe down when he designs starships. :mrgreen:
I disagree. I think he needs to pick it up. That, or put more potent stuff in it.

Posted: 2003-01-21 09:36pm
by Col. Crackpot
that mackie gue may have some skills when it comes to rendering, but why in the hell would anyone want a quad nacelled miranda? hell the only thing it's missing is a Gorn shaped hood ornament! bleeech!

Posted: 2003-01-21 09:41pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Col. Crackpot wrote:that mackie gue may have some skills when it comes to rendering, but why in the hell would anyone want a quad nacelled miranda? hell the only thing it's missing is a Gorn shaped hood ornament! bleeech!
Even worse is the four nacelled, blocky Constitution with two engineering hulls on the sides (the third one).

Blech!!

Posted: 2003-01-21 10:20pm
by Master of Ossus
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:that mackie gue may have some skills when it comes to rendering, but why in the hell would anyone want a quad nacelled miranda? hell the only thing it's missing is a Gorn shaped hood ornament! bleeech!
Even worse is the four nacelled, blocky Constitution with two engineering hulls on the sides (the third one).

Blech!!
And six warp nacelles.

Actually, I don't think that they're renderings or designs are half bad. I like the Periwinkle and the Armada, and while the others might have benefitted from a bit more time on the concept floor, they are well rendered.

Posted: 2003-01-21 10:29pm
by EmperorMing
There are only so many combinations of saucer, nacelle and secondary hull available.

Even in a Sci-Fi universe, there are only so many classes of a ship that you can have...

Posted: 2003-01-22 12:48am
by Uraniun235
I was never a fan of the really obviously and yet seemingly pointlessly kitbashed designs. The Nebula and Miranda classes I can understand quite well, using parts and designs common to their larger counterparts in a smaller configuration. Some of them are just plain goofy, though.

Posted: 2003-01-22 01:56am
by Red Knight
The only one i see as alright is The Mackie, the other two.... eh. As for the spinning one, it seems to be a somewhat ripped off version of the ship from Galaxy Quest.

Posted: 2003-01-22 03:12am
by Enlightenment
Discussion of Mackie split into its own thread.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=10916

Posted: 2003-01-22 01:39pm
by Mackie
hrm sorry for bumping something old but when it comes to ship designing... i try something new, less conventional... cant really please everyone. would appreciate good ideas though :lol:

Posted: 2003-01-22 02:35pm
by Col. Crackpot
dude, i have a suggestion. never, ever EVER name a ship the USS Periwinkle! good grief, who's the captain? Phillip M'Bunghole?

Posted: 2003-01-22 09:52pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Mackie wrote:hrm sorry for bumping something old but when it comes to ship designing... i try something new, less conventional... cant really please everyone. would appreciate good ideas though :lol:
Here's one.

Don't make them look like this:
http://www.themackiestuff.com/ships/images/magellan.jpg

Posted: 2003-01-22 11:20pm
by generator_g1
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Mackie wrote:hrm sorry for bumping something old but when it comes to ship designing... i try something new, less conventional... cant really please everyone. would appreciate good ideas though :lol:
Here's one.

Don't make them look like this:
http://www.themackiestuff.com/ships/images/magellan.jpg
What the heck was that? It looked like a mish-mosh of fed ship parts :D :D :D

Posted: 2003-01-22 11:24pm
by Master of Ossus
Mackie wrote:hrm sorry for bumping something old but when it comes to ship designing... i try something new, less conventional... cant really please everyone. would appreciate good ideas though :lol:
What you try and do is create parity of design within all of the components of the ship. You want to make them look as if they were designed to go together, rather than glued on at the end. This is usually pretty tough with the standard space-frames of ST ships, because they are designed to have two or four warp-engines, and is why your "Periwinkle" design is widely considered to be the best one there.

Posted: 2003-01-23 03:43am
by Moonshadow
Borg Cubes. A big Cube made of what looks like pipes *yawn*