Federation President

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-02 11:00pm

Ok, in The Undiscovered Country, they showed the Federation President, but I've been wondering for awhile, what race is he? He looked like a Klingon, he had the same type of mustache Klingon males (and some females

) have, and I believe he had what resembled headridges. So, does anyone know what race he was?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-02 11:15pm

One of the various random Star Trek races that have appeared in the fims, never to be seen again.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-02 11:25pm

Wouldn't it be a hoot if he was a Klingon? Think of the insane irony of it, the Feddies president is from a race that they consider to be their mortal enemy.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-02 11:28pm

Actually, it wouldn't make any sense, as it was still during the Klingon Cold War. And stylistically, it'd basically invalidate the whole theme of the film.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-02 11:40pm

I don't recall these head-ridges. I thought he just looked like he had hippie hair.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-02 11:42pm

I haven't seen the movie in a while, so I could be mistaken.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-02-02 11:52pm

I read the Novelization of the movie; the author identifies the President's species as Deltan, same as Lt. Ilya from ST:TMP

Apparently, only the chicks go bald.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-02 11:56pm

How does the novelization stand in terms of canon?

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-02-02 11:58pm

He was the same kind as that navigator dude on the Saratoga at the start of ST4.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-03 12:05am

He had ridges, but they were more horizontal whereas Klingon ridges were more vertical. I think they reused that set of ridges in VoY but I could be mistaken.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-03 12:15am

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/galle ... ce-st6.jpg

found a pic, its the old dude behind the desk

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-03 10:16am

On a related note: Does anyone else find it odd how the Feddies and the Klingons became so buddy buddy with each other so quickly after being enemies for so long?

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-02-03 11:56am

Darth Fanboy wrote:http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/galle ... ce-st6.jpg

found a pic, its the old dude behind the desk

Looks a lot like Red...I mean Annorax...or was it Clarence Bodiker.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-02-03 12:45pm

closet sci-fi fan wrote:It took them decades and the loss of the E-C to become buddy-buddy IIRC. Besides if both parties involved stand to benefit economically beings friends, it won't be that hard at all to become close.

That's another thing, I always thought the Kitomer accord created peace between them. Then, they throw this "E-C is destroyed while defending a Klingon outpost from a Romulan attack, so now the Klingons and Feddies are buddies" thing at us.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 12:52pm

Well, that's because "Yesterday's Enterprise" was made about three years before Star Trek VI. And who's to say that relations didn't weaken a little over time.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-03 12:56pm

Klingons are unreliable allies. DS9 proved that. They can be your buddies one minute and hate you the next. The only thing that kept them in line was the Dominion threat.

The only thing they can be relied on is to recite their rhetoric, "They have no honor."

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2003-02-03 01:06pm

Im just suprised he didn't call the Romulan ambassador a dumb-ass...

God bless you Red Foreman...

But on a more serious note...

If he's Deltan, how does he cope with the intense sexuality thing that Deltans have, as evidenced in TWOK novelisation & TMP...?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 01:13pm

He looks more like an ancient Chinese kung fu master than a Delten to me...

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2003-02-03 01:17pm

Yeah, he's Fu Manchus slightly albino stunt double...