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Federation President

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:00pm
by Jason von Evil
Ok, in The Undiscovered Country, they showed the Federation President, but I've been wondering for awhile, what race is he? He looked like a Klingon, he had the same type of mustache Klingon males (and some females :shock: ) have, and I believe he had what resembled headridges. So, does anyone know what race he was?

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:15pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
One of the various random Star Trek races that have appeared in the fims, never to be seen again.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:25pm
by Jason von Evil
Wouldn't it be a hoot if he was a Klingon? Think of the insane irony of it, the Feddies president is from a race that they consider to be their mortal enemy.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:28pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Actually, it wouldn't make any sense, as it was still during the Klingon Cold War. And stylistically, it'd basically invalidate the whole theme of the film.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:40pm
by Darth Wong
I don't recall these head-ridges. I thought he just looked like he had hippie hair.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:42pm
by Jason von Evil
I haven't seen the movie in a while, so I could be mistaken.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:52pm
by Enola Straight
I read the Novelization of the movie; the author identifies the President's species as Deltan, same as Lt. Ilya from ST:TMP

Apparently, only the chicks go bald.

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:56pm
by Jason von Evil
How does the novelization stand in terms of canon?

Posted: 2003-02-02 11:58pm
by Baron Mordo
He was the same kind as that navigator dude on the Saratoga at the start of ST4.

Posted: 2003-02-03 12:05am
by Darth Fanboy
He had ridges, but they were more horizontal whereas Klingon ridges were more vertical. I think they reused that set of ridges in VoY but I could be mistaken.

Posted: 2003-02-03 12:15am
by Darth Fanboy
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/galle ... ce-st6.jpg

found a pic, its the old dude behind the desk

Posted: 2003-02-03 10:16am
by Jason von Evil
On a related note: Does anyone else find it odd how the Feddies and the Klingons became so buddy buddy with each other so quickly after being enemies for so long?

Posted: 2003-02-03 11:56am
by Sir Sirius
Darth Fanboy wrote:http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/galle ... ce-st6.jpg

found a pic, its the old dude behind the desk
Looks a lot like Red...I mean Annorax...or was it Clarence Bodiker.

Posted: 2003-02-03 12:45pm
by Jason von Evil
closet sci-fi fan wrote:It took them decades and the loss of the E-C to become buddy-buddy IIRC. Besides if both parties involved stand to benefit economically beings friends, it won't be that hard at all to become close.
That's another thing, I always thought the Kitomer accord created peace between them. Then, they throw this "E-C is destroyed while defending a Klingon outpost from a Romulan attack, so now the Klingons and Feddies are buddies" thing at us.

Posted: 2003-02-03 12:52pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Well, that's because "Yesterday's Enterprise" was made about three years before Star Trek VI. And who's to say that relations didn't weaken a little over time.

Posted: 2003-02-03 12:56pm
by Darth Servo
Klingons are unreliable allies. DS9 proved that. They can be your buddies one minute and hate you the next. The only thing that kept them in line was the Dominion threat.

The only thing they can be relied on is to recite their rhetoric, "They have no honor."

Posted: 2003-02-03 01:06pm
by DocHorror
Im just suprised he didn't call the Romulan ambassador a dumb-ass...

God bless you Red Foreman...

But on a more serious note...

If he's Deltan, how does he cope with the intense sexuality thing that Deltans have, as evidenced in TWOK novelisation & TMP...?

Posted: 2003-02-03 01:13pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
He looks more like an ancient Chinese kung fu master than a Delten to me...

Posted: 2003-02-03 01:17pm
by DocHorror
Yeah, he's Fu Manchus slightly albino stunt double...