Trek Ep with the worst science.

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-02-08 03:33pm

Threshold gets the vote from me.

Luke Starkiller · Post by **Luke Starkiller** » 2003-02-08 03:40pm

Threshold or the one with the 'quantum fissure' in the event horizon of a black hole.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-02-08 03:44pm

Threshold comes top of anything thats in this format "worst ###### in trek".

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-02-08 03:56pm

Yep, Threshold sucks beyond all belief in every conceivable way.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-02-08 04:20pm

TNG "Genesis" is up there as well.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-02-08 04:54pm

Don't forget "The Chase" and its mangling of evolutionary biology and statistics. Also, "Starship Mine" and its "baryon sweep" could be trumpeted as one of the most legendary blunders in sci-fi ever.

Then there was that episode with the Soliton "wave," which was nothing more than something traveling through space while oscillating internally. By that fucked up definition, everyone is a wave because our atoms happen to oscillate, too. The butcheries of wave physics in that episode were almost beyond comprehension.

Biddybot · Post by **Biddybot** » 2003-02-08 06:06pm

For Voyager, that ep with the macroviruses was about the stupidest thing I ever saw on that show. They were those basketball-sized things that could fly around, hummed real loud, and you could kill them with a knife. Viruses.

The Next Generation, I laughed at their 'Genesis' episode, in which people began de-evolving. Riker as a caveman was worth sitting through the rest of the crap for, though. I also had a hard time believing the stuff that went on in that ep where they explored the head of a comet and a bunch of godly spirits began possessing people on the Enterprise and turning the ship proper into a temple or some damn thing. More stupid in the mystical rather than the science sense, however.

DS9--The Bareil croaks episode in which he was turned into a sort of robo-Vedek was intensely bad. I think they got their science from a graduate of the Weekly World News University for that one. I was even more incensed by the ep in which Keira became suddenly pregnant because...well, here's my opinion of this miracle from when it first aired--hasn't changed any:

'There is an infamous scene in the classic turkey THE AMAZING COLOSSAL MAN wherein the heroic male lead, a doctor, is explaining to the Colossal Man's weepy fiance why her mutated sweetie is having these awful chest pains. It's somewhat technical, he carefully reveals, but the main reason the Colossal Man's heart isn't growing as fast as the rest of him is because the heart is comprised of a single cell. If you watch this scene alongside the MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATRE 3000 audience, you'll see this statement greeted with initial stunned silence, then one viewer will call out, "You're not a real doctor, are you?" There's an exact counterpart to this piece of unintentional hilarity in this week's DS9 offering; Bashir tries to explain how he somehow stuffed Keiko O'Brien's midterm human fetus, complete presumably with amniotic sac, umbilical cord, placenta and other support structures, into Kira's dormant womb, and the more he babbles on to a stunned Sisko and Miles, the more one is inclined to likewise cat-call, "You're not a real doctor, are you?" I thought that DS9 had hit medical rock bottom last year with its dreadful positronic-brained Bareil resurrection. This one is worse...far worse...'

For Classic Trek, I think 'Spock's Brain' and the one with the three alien brains living in the dairy case, directing gladiatorial games for their amusement, were the best of the worst, as it were.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-08 06:55pm

Hell, the whole show has everything when it comes to worst science!

*Waits for DarkStar to show up*

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-02-08 07:12pm

jaeger115 wrote:Hell, the whole show has everything when it comes to worst science!

*Waits for DarkStar to show up*

You will have a long wait.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-08 08:08pm

[1] The devolution shit
[2] The crack in the event horizon
[3] Anytime a particle is mentioned
[4] Absolutely every single other reference to anything scientific

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-08 09:15pm

Honey, I shrunk the runabout

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-08 09:27pm

I fucking hate anything involving time travel, including ST4 and STFC

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-08 09:57pm

Darth Wong wrote:Honey, I shrunk the runabout

But it's about a little ship, that took a little trip. Who can you not like it?

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-08 10:57pm

A Day in the Life of Data was pretty bad. I don't even want to know it's true name.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-02-08 10:59pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:I fucking hate anything involving time travel, including ST4 and STFC

There's been an article stating that if you "tune" yourself to a local superstring or something, you could travel forward or backwards in time or something like that.

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Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-02-08 11:27pm

Oh no! Don't bash "Threshold," recent scientific studies show that the next step up in eveolution somehow equates to human beings becoming FUCKING LIZARDS.

That and the infamous crack in the black holes event horizon. Any of the magic particles used to save the day. Borg nanoprobes are pretty bad. S-8472 being able to tap planet-busting power from the magic well of energy that is 'subspace.'

IE-Voyager.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-02-08 11:33pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:A Day in the Life of Data was pretty bad. I don't even want to know it's true name.

Data's Day. What happened in that episode?

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-02-08 11:33pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Oh no! Don't bash "Threshold," recent scientific studies show that the next step up in eveolution somehow equates to human beings becoming FUCKING LIZARDS.

What makes you sure the next step in human evolution will lizard did`nt we start as lizard then monkey, so the next step might be a growth in our brain mass

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-08 11:46pm

Montcalm wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Oh no! Don't bash "Threshold," recent scientific studies show that the next step up in eveolution somehow equates to human beings becoming FUCKING LIZARDS.
What makes you sure the next step in human evolution will lizard did`nt we start as lizard then monkey, so the next step might be a growth in our brain mass

Evolution doesn't work that way. You can't just spontaneously evolve into something.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-02-08 11:52pm

Eh, Montclam I was being sarcastic. I'm pretty sure the next step in evolution will be something a little more advanced than lizards.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-09 12:38am

What about that fucking stupid episode with the Voth, or whatever the hell they were called? The dinosaurs who supposedly blasted off into space 65 million years ago to avoid the asteroid impact, and found themselves in the Delta Quadrant, nicely evolved into bipedal humanoids with scaly skin?

The best part was a Voyager computer simulation of the "expected path of evolution" of dinosaurs into this intelligent bipedal humanoid! Fucking Hollywood idiots and their imbecilic misconceptions about evolution ...

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-09 12:44am

It does kinda make sense though. the dinosaurs that left Earth knew in advance what kind of shit Paramount and the Tv networks were going to let on the airwaves.

I don't understand how a hi tech society such as the Voth developed all of that technology when their scientists seemed so inhibited by religion and social mores.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-02-09 12:54am

Wasn't Riker smarter as the caveman?

Trek episode with the worst abuse of science, too many to name!

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-02-09 03:31am

Biddybot wrote:For Voyager, that ep with the macroviruses was about the stupidest thing I ever saw on that show. They were those basketball-sized things that could fly around, hummed real loud, and you could kill them with a knife. Viruses.

Yup. That episode was called Macrocosm. It also gets my vote for least realistic episode.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-02-09 04:13am

Pah. Almost all these butcheries of science could be blamed on the crew being morons--maybe Paris didn't evolve, he just spontaneously morphed into a lizard and the crew SAID he was evolving because they were morons. Ditto for most of the rest of them.

But the crack in the event horizon, that's stone cold scientific butchery. It's easier to toss that episode out of the canon than to try and rationalize that one.

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