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Different kinds of 'Space'
Posted: 2003-02-10 08:18pm
by Defiant
How many different 'Spaces' have the stupid ST writers introduced? I'll start it off with two of my favorites:
Fluidic Space: The wonderful home of Species 8472
UnderSpace: Saw it in a Voyager episode. Can't quite remember what it was because the episode was so bad, I gave myself a lobotomy so I could forget it.
Any others?
Posted: 2003-02-10 08:23pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
My goodness, you've forgotten the infinate pool of energy that isSUBSPACE!Tack this word onto any regular term and it instantley becomes Trekifyed.
Posted: 2003-02-10 08:27pm
by Defiant
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:My goodness, you've forgotten the infinate pool of energy that isSUBSPACE!Tack this word onto any regular term and it instantley becomes Trekifyed.
Hmmm, let me try.
<sarcasm>
Microwave oven? Naw, too simple.
Subspace oven? Now that sounds good!!
</sarcasm>
Posted: 2003-02-10 09:54pm
by Kuja
The Subspace lawn chair. Ahhhh, comfy.
Posted: 2003-02-10 11:01pm
by Uraniun235
Triaxilating subspace vibrator with covariant waveguide flux.
Posted: 2003-02-10 11:28pm
by jaeger115
There's also "antispace".
I think I remembered it from one TNG episode in which the Enterprise ran into an temporal anomaly.
Posted: 2003-02-10 11:43pm
by Uraniun235
No, you're thinking of "anti-time".
Posted: 2003-02-11 12:09am
by Raxmei
They had an episode with chaotic space.
Posted: 2003-02-11 12:38am
by neoolong
Uraniun235 wrote:No, you're thinking of "anti-time".
Yes, and that makes it make sense.
Posted: 2003-02-11 12:40am
by Utsanomiko
Raxmei wrote:They had an episode with chaotic space.
Is that anything like Wild magic, ala post Time of troubles?
Posted: 2003-02-11 03:48am
by Captain tycho
Raxmei wrote:They had an episode with chaotic space.
I though Trek
was set in chaotic space.
Posted: 2003-02-11 08:27am
by Zoink
The voyager episode last night had "nullspace"
Posted: 2003-02-11 09:19am
by Enola Straight
The one with the nullspace catapult?
Null Space was first used in TNG when Riker fell in love with an androgynous Jenai; null space was like a black hole, sucking in energy. Everything inside whas bright white
.
I think in the first season Geordi bade one passing reference to Hyperspace
.
Posted: 2003-02-11 04:34pm
by Admiral Johnason
So many spaces, so little intelligence left in the producers.
Posted: 2003-02-11 08:26pm
by Uraniun235
Enola Straight wrote:The one with the nullspace catapult?
Null Space was first used in TNG when Riker fell in love with an androgynous Jenai; null space was like a black hole, sucking in energy. Everything inside whas bright white
.
I think in the first season Geordi bade one passing reference to Hyperspace
.
He was telling a joke. The punchline was something like "So she says to him, 'let's see you try that in hyperspace!'"
Data, of course, didn't get it. Though neither did anyone in the audience.
Posted: 2003-02-11 10:52pm
by Enola Straight
In tthe TNG episode "Coming of Age" there is mention of the Hyperspace Physics Test for those wishing to join Starfleet Academy.
Posted: 2003-02-11 11:17pm
by jaeger115
In tthe TNG episode "Coming of Age" there is mention of the Hyperspace Physics Test for those wishing to join Starfleet Academy.
"Okay, cadets," the instructor told everyone in the room. "Here's the Hyperspace Physics Test. It consists of two dots which you must connect. Maximum time is 3 weeks."
Posted: 2003-02-12 06:01pm
by Admiral Johnason
Prehaps Starfleet knows of hyperspace but hs never been able to use it.
Posted: 2003-02-13 02:03am
by Eframepilot
Hyperspace is just subspace with dimension n-1.
Posted: 2003-02-13 06:59pm
by Sektor31
let me clear this up
hyperspace is a plane beyond normal space, think four-dimensions.
subspace is a plane...under normal space? my guess there.
Posted: 2003-02-13 07:14pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Hyperspace is just multidimensional space beyond three spatial, and one temporal dimension.
Hyperspace in SW refers to the universe observed from the perspective of a tachyon.
ST (RL) and SW Hyperspace are two different things.
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:04pm
by Publius
Actually, according to Mr Gene Roddenberry, in Chapter Eleven of
The Motion Picture:
Almost a century ago, the first successful quantum leap of a starship into warp drive made hash of all those theories based on too narrow or unimaginative an interpretation of Einstein's work. That first starship and those aboard her did not become pure energy. What happened, of course, was that when the starship reached the threshold of light speed, it also reached that boundary between "normal" space and hyperspace. That boundary was time, making it appear to those first travelers into hyperspace that the universe around their starship had suddenly begun to shrink in size. Beginning with warp one and increasing geometrically, the higher the warp speed, the "smaller" the universe and the closer together the points within it became.
The United Federation Starfleet not only uses hyperspace, it does so on a regular and routine basis.
Posted: 2003-02-14 08:10pm
by Admiral Johnason
Well, now, in St, what he was talking about is called subspace. He happened to use the same term as the one in SW. the same situation happened when the Klingons had "ion cannons" on their Neah'Vars.
Posted: 2003-02-15 02:28pm
by Publius
Admiral Johnason wrote:Well, now, in St, what he was talking about is called subspace. He happened to use the same term as the one in SW. the same situation happened when the Klingons had "ion cannons" on their Neah'Vars.
What Mr Roddenberry was talking about is called "hyperspace" in
Star Trek, as he was writing a
Star Trek novel at the time he described the basic mechanism of warp drive. Subsequent additions to the canon -- in both the Roddenberry canon and the Paramount Pictures canon -- have substituted "subspace" for "hyperspace", but the canonical fact remains that warp-driven starships involve "hyperspatial" phenomena.
Posted: 2003-02-15 03:26pm
by Illuminatus Primus
I know Publius. ST uses the RL definition of hyperspace. 4th dimensional space time with additional spatial dimensions above that known as hyperspace.
The universe viewed from the perspective of a tachyon (SW Hyperspace) is completely unrelated.'
Mike remarked that subspace might be a catch-all term for hyperspatial phenomenon.