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Impulse:how fast is it?
Posted: 2003-02-15 04:50am
by Laird
Just for shits and giggles I took some screen shots to ethier help Gil Hamilton support his nemesis ramming calcs or distort them
In his eyes all other canon sources for impulse should be disolved and this should be a basis of how impulse is 1/3rd of a KM/sec from when picard orders "Full Impulse" it takes roughly 8 seconds from take off to impact with the schimitar.
So here are the screenshots I took for him that he belives help his case more so.
Especially screenshot # 2,I personally belive the latter and stick with the tech manuals .25C for what Impulse is yet many other eps in trek say Impulse is much faster.
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/N1.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/N2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/dmz/N3.jpg
Posted: 2003-02-15 05:06am
by Beowulf
Maximum speed is a mostly non-sensical concept in space. You'd pretty much only reach that speed when you're out of gas...
Posted: 2003-02-15 05:14am
by Spanky The Dolphin
"Back and to the left..."
Posted: 2003-02-15 08:56am
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Speed is useless in space. Aceleration matters.
Posted: 2003-02-15 09:51am
by Gil Hamilton
I should explain this conversation. I was the first to point out how I hated the term "Full Impulse" because it implied a maximum speed in vacuum other than the speed of light. Then I pointed out that the Enterprise is not more than 3km from the Scimitar and if it took 8 seconds to cross, said difference, then if it was travelling at "full impulse", then it would be no quicker than .375km/s. I didn't believe it was "full impulse" mind you, but Laird kept insisting that it was full impulse (or .25C according to a manual) and that the Scimitar was really really far away from the Enterprise. I didn't buy that.
Posted: 2003-02-15 10:14am
by Alyeska
The series visuals have proven time and time again that Impulse is an acceleration rating. I wouldn't be surprised if different ships have different acceleration ratings. Impulse denotes the power being put behind the acceleration for that ship. A Tac-Fighter or Runabout can probably out accelerate a Galaxy at full impulse.
Posted: 2003-02-15 08:52pm
by kojikun
Maximum impules speed is less then the speed of light.
Posted: 2003-02-15 09:25pm
by Alyeska
kojikun wrote:Maximum impules speed is less then the speed of light.
There is no such thing as maximum impulse speed. FYI, we have seen impulse used to go FTL before.
Posted: 2003-02-15 09:54pm
by Howedar
There is no numerical maximum, but there is a limit.
Posted: 2003-02-15 10:45pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Alyeska wrote:kojikun wrote:Maximum impules speed is less then the speed of light.
There is no such thing as maximum impulse speed. FYI, we have seen impulse used to go FTL before.
When was this?
Posted: 2003-02-15 11:35pm
by Master of Ossus
DUDE! I'm having an argument with some dumbass on GameFAQ's, right now about this exact subject. Check it out:
http://s1.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genme ... 892&page=3
Basically, he uses circular logic to "defend" his own logic. Gee, how creative.
Posted: 2003-02-16 02:28am
by Gil Hamilton
Alyeska wrote:There is no such thing as maximum impulse speed. FYI, we have seen impulse used to go FTL before.
Only because of lazy writers who didn't take the whole thrity seconds necessary to get a decent number. Writers with poor math skills don't count.
Posted: 2003-02-16 02:31am
by Gil Hamilton
Illuminatus Primus wrote:When was this?
I believe he's refering to BoBW part 2 where the Enterprise was around circa Saturn on an intercept course with a Borg cube near Mars and had an expected intercept ETA of something like 20 minutes at impulse speed. It was shitty writing where Paramount's room full of monkeys banging on keyboards threw up a random number without checking to see if it was feasible.
