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The Borg To Appear On 'Enterprise'!!!
Posted: 2003-02-20 10:41am
by Sir Sirius
http://www.trektoday.com/news/200203_03.shtml
So what do you think?
I think that this was pretty unavoidable, the ratings are down and B&B will naturaly resort to their last trickin the bag, namely the Borg.
Me thinks this is the swan song of 'Enterprise'.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:04am
by Isolder74
heaven forbid!
their violation of TOS continuety is bad enough now this would through everything out the window.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:08am
by DocHorror
Bah, it fucks with ST & rips off the Thing...A plague on both their houses!
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:12am
by Keevan_Colton
"Continuity? Star Trek? I think you have us confused with people that have a timeline...."
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:22am
by Col. Crackpot
*sigh* ....hey, i'm a trekkie and i don't even watch that crap anymore. B&B are reallly getting desperate.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:48am
by Peregrin Toker
Are they deliberately screwing up with continuity??
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:49am
by Knife
Simon H.Johansen wrote:Are they deliberately screwing up with continuity??
YES, they want to rewrite the TOS in their image and irradicate Roddenberry from ST forever.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:50am
by Frank Hipper
B&B HATE us. I think they're insanely rabid Warsies bent on destroying ST forever.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:52am
by Shinova
This could be a joke, but if it isn't, then Enterprise and the rest of Star Trek are as good as incompatible with each other timeline-wise...
Unless the episode plays out and somehow record of the Borg encounter in Enterprise get wiped and no one's supposed to talk about it afterwords until TNG's "Q Who" comes around.
And a Borg sphere in the Artic circle? I can somewhat believe a small scout ship or a fragment crashing on Earth, but a whole SPHERE???
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:53am
by Darth Garden Gnome
They're running out of ideas apparently. They've already done Klingons (who's apperance is qustionable in the timeline), Romulans who are definatley NOT part of the continuity as of then.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:55am
by Montcalm
What next digitally put a borg cube in front of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:55am
by paladin
Shinova wrote:This could be a joke, but if it isn't, then Enterprise and the rest of Star Trek are as good as incompatible with each other timeline-wise...
Unless the episode plays out and somehow record of the Borg encounter in Enterprise get wiped and no one's supposed to talk about it afterwords until TNG's "Q Who" comes around.
And a Borg sphere in the Artic circle? I can somewhat believe a small scout ship or a fragment crashing on Earth, but a whole SPHERE???
I think it's the craft from "First Contact."
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:57am
by Frank Hipper
Montcalm wrote:What next digitally put a borg cube in front of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701
GAAAHHH! Don't give them ideas, man! They'll get delusions of being Ted Turner. *shudders*
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:59am
by Shinova
paladin wrote:Shinova wrote:This could be a joke, but if it isn't, then Enterprise and the rest of Star Trek are as good as incompatible with each other timeline-wise...
Unless the episode plays out and somehow record of the Borg encounter in Enterprise get wiped and no one's supposed to talk about it afterwords until TNG's "Q Who" comes around.
And a Borg sphere in the Artic circle? I can somewhat believe a small scout ship or a fragment crashing on Earth, but a whole SPHERE???
I think it's the craft from "First Contact."
E-E blew that ship to hell with 4 qtorps.
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:00pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Not according to the B&B Magic Wand (TM)...
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:05pm
by Stravo
You know I just KNEW this was going to happen. B&B have NO COURAGE or CREATIVITY. FUCK. They were the ones that chose to place their new show in an era where everything they established in TNG DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST YET. That's like creating a show in modern times, then setting a sequel show in teh Civil War era and having guest appearances by character from the modern era.
FUCK!!! This is sooooo disgusting. They had a wide open world in which to experiment. They could have created whole new races and societies for this time, whole new adventures and cpatured the explorer spirit of TOS that was lost in the TNG era. Instead...they did what they do best and took a dump all over TOS continuity.
They hate TOS for a clear reason...the WORST episodes of TOS were better written than any drek they could put together.
What I HATE even more....the legion of Zombie Trektards that keep this franchise treading water will eat this up and not give a single shit about what this has done.
I'm so glad I gave up on this afer the pilot.
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:14pm
by Baron Mordo
Lordy.
Say this works somehow and boosts Enterprise's ratings. What then? Do they meet a young vulcan named Sarek? Or perhaps a dork named Rasmunsen? Or maybe they find Khan's ship and revive him, but then put him back at the end of the episode?
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:27pm
by Frank Hipper
Baron Mordo wrote:Lordy.
Or maybe they find Khan's ship and revive him, but then put him back at the end of the episode?
Nothing would suprise me.
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:35pm
by Alyeska
Eh, people... There is no continuity problem here. We have a handful of Drones discovered, a mess ensues, but eventually things are taken care of. Who these people are is never trully discovered and eventually this entire event is forgotten. Then centuries later Q has fun with the Enterprise-D and now they face a Cube and get REAL information on the Borg.
This actually has good continuity to it. It directly ties itself with an alrady established fact from First Contact.
Posted: 2003-02-20 12:36pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Except that the Borg Sphere in FC got Blowed Up Real Good.
Posted: 2003-02-20 01:02pm
by Sothis
From the violence of the explosion, I'd say there was nothing bigger than a shoebox left behind of that sphere in First Contact, and any debris would have long burnt up in the atmosphere, or just be a piece of charred, useless metal.
Posted: 2003-02-20 01:17pm
by Gil Hamilton
Alyeska wrote:Eh, people... There is no continuity problem here. We have a handful of Drones discovered, a mess ensues, but eventually things are taken care of. Who these people are is never trully discovered and eventually this entire event is forgotten. Then centuries later Q has fun with the Enterprise-D and now they face a Cube and get REAL information on the Borg.
This actually has good continuity to it. It directly ties itself with an alrady established fact from First Contact.
What, and they don't keep records in the future? They are bound to take photographs of the drones encountered and also take samples of the nanoprobes taken from the assimilated guy. The only way for them to perserve Continuity is for everyone to Magically Forget the Events Ever Happened and not take any records. No organized society is going to do this. Continuity is as good as broken.
Besides, this doesn't fit with First Contact, the Sphere was annhilated, as other posters have pointed out.
Posted: 2003-02-20 01:27pm
by Isolder74
one other thing the Sphere was destroyed over Montana! Do they have no sense of geography! There is no possible way any part of the Sphere could end up at the North Pole after falling into the atmosphere. The debris would fall to the west of the point of destruction and be nothing more than a charred mess.
Posted: 2003-02-20 01:34pm
by Darth Servo
Don't these idiots know that further screwing with continuity will only lower ratings even more? Its the lack of continuity that caused much of the poor ratings in the first place. That and the fact that nearly every episode is just recycled plot from other ST series.
Does ANYONE in the ST franchise have any creativity anymore?
Posted: 2003-02-20 02:16pm
by TheDarkling
Wasn't pre-BOBW knowledge of the Borg already in existence from Voyager.
The Hansens had heard of the Borg (as had the Federation to a degree) before BOBW, in fact the Hansens even had a model of a cube ship before going on their mission.
Frankly this continuity ship has already sailed its just nobody noticed the error (or I missed something).