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ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-01 04:03pm
by Sonnenburg
The next step in the Q arc closes out TNG. Two part video, both parts are on this page. Picard gets flung back and forth through time until he destroys mankind, but then it never happens.

Video

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-01 04:39pm
by Alyeska
Good review as always. And it does a good job noting where it all went right in that episode.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-01 05:12pm
by Ghost Rider
I enjoyed this as with all your reviews be it the clunkers or the gems. A couple things I enjoyed that you noted is two bits. One, is the technobabble bit as well as Crusher's "In English" bit. The dislike of the cliche is to make some long winded line needs to be translated for no other reason then have both a character look dumb for spewing but the need to make long winded nonsense. The other is noting how much TNG pushed into pop culture versus 90% of science fiction.

Other points I enjoyed is that how you noted that this ended like how series should usually end. People wanting more, and on a high note. Also using Queen was a nice touch near the end given what the song is, and what they were trying to fix :mrgreen: .

Still trying to wonder how Night in Sickbay got a Hugo nominee....but meh.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-01 06:17pm
by Glom
Far too little credit is given to the first courtroom scene. It was a marvellous bit of ham from DeLancie.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-01 06:34pm
by Serafina
Yay, more crack ;)

What to say...good episode, good review and a very good recap at the end of the review.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 03:25am
by Bounty
The "annoying character of the week" quote on-screen... either I'm missing the joke or the grammar in that sentence is off.

Good review, I was surprised to see the score considering the episode does have issues.

I always liked the last lines of the series:
PICARD
So. Five card stud, nothing wild.
The sky's the limit.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 04:27am
by CaptainChewbacca
Nice, I loved the superhero/villain names, they were hilarious.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 07:22am
by Drooling Iguana
I'm just disappointed that they didn't get Cowbell Midget to reprise his role.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 11:41am
by tim31
Yeah, that does suck.

This was my favorite review to date, because I taped the episode when it originally aired, and watched it over and over until the tape wore out, but I still missed some of the nuances that Chuck picked up on.
Bounty wrote:I always liked the last lines of the series:
PICARD
So. Five card stud, nothing wild.
The sky's the limit.
In full agreement.

Even though I enjoyed Generations, I will always feel that it trys to cheapen the events of All Good Things.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 12:13pm
by Drooling Iguana
It cheapens the events of The Undiscovered Country (another great Trek finale,) too.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 05:33pm
by Enosh
great review, the part with naming all the "judge characters" was awesome
but I realy wouldn't rank stargate the same as babylon 5 or DS9, it got way more popularity and people outside of the sci-fi fandom are quite familiar with it. They might not know everything, but most people recognise atleast the gate when they see it

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 05:57pm
by Bounty
but I realy wouldn't rank stargate the same as babylon 5 or DS9, it got way more popularity and people outside of the sci-fi fandom are quite familiar with it. They might not know everything, but most people recognise atleast the gate when they see it
One, the shift key is your friend. As is punctuation.

Two, what planet do you live on where Stargate is in the public consciousness?

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 05:58pm
by Stark
His friends all like Stargate. QED.

Normal people have no idea what the Stargate is, and if they do it's due to the hilarious 90s movie.

EDIT - Actually, why do people say BEST FINALE OF ALL MODERN TREK SERIES? The old series didn't HAVE a finale and if it did, it SUCKED. If All Good Things is the best 'modern finale' it's the best fucking finale. What's the point of splitting hairs?

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 06:02pm
by Bounty
The only person I know IRL who knows what Stargate is has the theme tune as a ringtone and Teal'c on her desktop. Totally general public.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 07:02pm
by CaptainChewbacca
I watched Dennis Miller's last comedy special, he made a Stargate SG1 joke and managed to make 500 people completely silent.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 07:33pm
by tim31
Did you laugh out loud at that? I probably would have?

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 10:15pm
by Ted C
Chuck, you overlooked another problem with the anti-time effect. Supposedly Geordi grows working eyes because of the "anti-time eruption", but Geordi was born blind. His blindness is apparently due to a genetic anomaly or congenital condition, so merely having time reversed shouldn't cause his eyes to spontaneously start working again, because they NEVER worked properly.

Still a great review.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-02 11:45pm
by Gil Hamilton
Yeah, wasn't there that episode early one where they went to a human colony that was into hardcore eugenics and Geordi pointed out to their chief engineer that he would have likely have been aborted on that world due to the fact that his blindness was congenital, then laid it on thick when his visor turned out to hold the inspiration they were looking for? "Masterpiece Society" or something like that.

Makes you wonder why just his eyes went back in time. Maybe they are like Dune "stone burners" which are nuclear weapons that work especially well on eyeballs and completely blowing up planets in the same weapon, not not much else.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-03 01:53am
by CaptainChewbacca
tim31 wrote:Did you laugh out loud at that? I probably would have?
I laughed in sympathy. I've done bad stand-up before, there's really nothing so painful as NOT hearing laugher.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-04 10:10pm
by Zor
In general good, although i am going to say that i did not get the Narn joke at the begining of Part II.

Zor

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-05 12:20am
by Alan Bolte
I didn't either at first, probably because Chuck didn't include a voice clip for Tomalak, played by Andreas Katsulas, AKA G'Kar.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-05 10:01am
by Ted C
Gil Hamilton wrote:Yeah, wasn't there that episode early one where they went to a human colony that was into hardcore eugenics and Geordi pointed out to their chief engineer that he would have likely have been aborted on that world due to the fact that his blindness was congenital, then laid it on thick when his visor turned out to hold the inspiration they were looking for? "Masterpiece Society" or something like that.
That's the episode. I believe he said that if born on their world, he would have been terminated as a fertilized cell, meaning that his blindness is genetic, and not just a developmental error.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-05 10:26am
by Patrick Degan
Alan Bolte wrote:I didn't either at first, probably because Chuck didn't include a voice clip for Tomalak, played by Andreas Katsulas, AKA G'Kar.
"Picard, YOUR TIME HAS COME AND GONE —IT'S OUR TURN NOW!"

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-08 05:54pm
by CaptainChewbacca
Drooling Iguana wrote:I'm just disappointed that they didn't get Cowbell Midget to reprise his role.
I think the actor died in the intervening 7 years.

Re: ONGEG Video: All Good Things

Posted: 2009-08-08 06:53pm
by une
Chuck, now that you've finished the Q arc for TNG, are you planning to do any arcs for the other series? Like a prophets arc for DS9 or a Borg arc for Voyager?