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This is the look at the final part of the Q arc, Q2. Both parts are here, including the look back at the Q in Trek.

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Sad to see such an interesting character reduced to that level.

Jesus christ it makes you wonder what sick need they have to destroy a character. The hedgehog beating happiness quote is something that it applies here with what they did to Q.

I remember being really baffled by watching this episode and other Q ones.

If the Q can travel through time, or see the future, or whatever, why do they always look when things don't go their way?

You know it's funny, for all of early TNG's hubris, it had episodes like "Q Who" where that hubris was rubbed in Picard's face by Q, and Picard had to admit he was wrong. Thus Q became something of an enegmatic teacher.
In VOY on the other hand, Janeway must always be right, and must always win. So Janeway helps and teaches Q, and Janeway beats the Borg. So both are brought down to her level. Very sad when you think about it.

The jarring thing to me was Q suddenly looking much older compared to all the previous Q stories. I know John de Lancie was getting older but it's rather jarring to see a supposedly omnipotent and immortal being getting beaten with the aging stick so suddenly and badly.

Yet another affirmation of my belief that Q's last appearance should have been "All Good Things".

I just explain it this way:

Q liked Picard, because Picard was smart, had morals, and was capable of learning.

By the same criteria, he treated Janeway - she lacks all of these things, so he just plays with her, making her mental illness even worse.

Serafina wrote:I just explain it this way:

Q liked Picard, because Picard was smart, had morals, and was capable of learning.

By the same criteria, he treated Janeway - she lacks all of these things, so he just plays with her, making her mental illness even worse.

I generally regard most of Voyager as hallucinations brought on by Neelix's cooking, so I'm not really convinced Q ever visited Voyager. I mean, come on, engines that go to infinity? Living nebula? Neelix nor Janeway being strung up or spaced by the crew? Drugs are the only answer.

Denial yes, but I find it works wonders in cases like this.

They had a living nebula in TNG as well as nearly magic engines that shot them to another galaxy where thoughts became real.

Samuel wrote:They had a living nebula in TNG as well as nearly magic engines that shot them to another galaxy where thoughts became real.

Yes, but that was the first season of TNG, and the general rule is that you don't talk about the first season of TNG.

The second rule is that you don't talk about the first season of TNG.

And the third rule... "Shut up Wesley!"

Enough spamming.

"Q2" is not as painful and silly as "The Q and the Grey" nor as leaden and pompous as TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint", it's acceptable as a watchable filler episode, but rather so-whattish for being the last official Q story. It undoes some of the nerfing the Q Continuuim went through in the last Q story, they're more believable as superbeings that operate at more than four dimensions (despite the pettiness of Q and his son), and Keegan de Lancie was one of the better teen guest stars, but it doesn't go anywhere really special and the other Q elders dressed in the same attire as Q was in "EaF" & "AGT" was very lazy.

And John de Lancie starting to show his age (he was 53 at the time) and playing a supposedly immortal character is an unavoidable problem, which is why I'm a bit ambivalent about the movie adaptation of The Hobbit since Elrond and Gandalf turn up in it as important characters (with Ian McKellan and Hugo Weaving roughly a decade older than when they were filming TLotR trilogy). In the X-Men movie series they used digital technology to de-age actors - in X-Men 3 Stewart and McKellan looked suspect and in X-Men Origins: Wolverine Stewart was positively ghoulish.