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OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-19 05:38pm
by Marcus Aurelius
Part Two of Descent review:


Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-19 10:28pm
by Darth Lucifer
Love the voiceovers LOL :lol:

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-20 11:17am
by Temujin
Comedy wise, this was definitely one of Chuck's best reviews.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-20 12:56pm
by CaiusWickersham
Annoying Character Moment to Sir Isaac Newton for acting like an insufferable dandy, huh?

Point in defense: He was an insufferable dandy in real life. The stories from his peers that the man was a complete utter jerk who could make Dr. Gregory House seem an absolute darling in comparison are abundant. Newton's experiments in alchemy didn't help improve his 'tude either thanks to constant mercury exposure.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-20 05:13pm
by OsirisLord
What season was this episode? I don't think I've ever seen Troi in a Starfleet uniform. Normally she wears some skin tight one piece that shows her cleavage, like all professionals.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-21 07:49am
by Lord Revan
OsirisLord wrote:What season was this episode? I don't think I've ever seen Troi in a Starfleet uniform. Normally she wears some skin tight one piece that shows her cleavage, like all professionals.
she started using standard medical officers uniform during the episode(s) where Picard got capture and "interrogated"(read: tortured), I'm pretty sure we never see the purple outfit after that episode and to be honest the standard uniform looked way better.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-21 08:28pm
by Skylon
Lord Revan wrote:
OsirisLord wrote:What season was this episode? I don't think I've ever seen Troi in a Starfleet uniform. Normally she wears some skin tight one piece that shows her cleavage, like all professionals.
she started using standard medical officers uniform during the episode(s) where Picard got capture and "interrogated"(read: tortured), I'm pretty sure we never see the purple outfit after that episode and to be honest the standard uniform looked way better.
The only time I remember seeing it again was in "All Good Things", during the poker game at the end.

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Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-22 06:21am
by Ilya Muromets
That whole background Borg convo almost deserves an episode of its own. :lol:
CaiusWickersham wrote:Annoying Character Moment to Sir Isaac Newton for acting like an insufferable dandy, huh?

Point in defense: He was an insufferable dandy in real life. The stories from his peers that the man was a complete utter jerk who could make Dr. Gregory House seem an absolute darling in comparison are abundant. Newton's experiments in alchemy didn't help improve his 'tude either thanks to constant mercury exposure.
And that has any bearing on the review how? The Annoying Character Moment goes to anyone in the episode Chuck finds sufficiently annoying (with a few exceptions for humorous purposes and/or if he finds the character truly, irredemably insufferable; like Okona for one). So how is it a point in defense if he was like that in real life? The writers threw in Newton in the episode, Chuck found him annoying enough, so Newton gets the ACM. I fail to see why this would necessitate a defense.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-22 06:22pm
by Temujin
Lord Revan wrote:
OsirisLord wrote:What season was this episode? I don't think I've ever seen Troi in a Starfleet uniform. Normally she wears some skin tight one piece that shows her cleavage, like all professionals.
she started using standard medical officers uniform during the episode(s) where Picard got capture and "interrogated"(read: tortured), I'm pretty sure we never see the purple outfit after that episode and to be honest the standard uniform looked way better.
Probably because Jellico got fed up and took a phaser to all her casual clothes.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-22 06:27pm
by CaiusWickersham
Ilya Muromets wrote:And that has any bearing on the review how? The Annoying Character Moment goes to anyone in the episode Chuck finds sufficiently annoying (with a few exceptions for humorous purposes and/or if he finds the character truly, irredemably insufferable; like Okona for one). So how is it a point in defense if he was like that in real life? The writers threw in Newton in the episode, Chuck found him annoying enough, so Newton gets the ACM. I fail to see why this would necessitate a defense.
It's in how Chuck explains why he's giving the award -- "The father of physics is portrayed as an insufferable dandy," with a tone that he expected better or some more "respect" for Newton in the portrayal. Now, if Newton really was the grade of asshole as his peers described him to be, then the portrayal was accurate and what then was Chuck expecting? Giving an ACM to a character who really ought to be behaving better (i.e. Neelix) is one thing. Giving an ACM for accurate depiction is excessive.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-22 07:20pm
by Bob the Gunslinger
Temujin wrote:
Lord Revan wrote: Probably because Jellico got fed up and took a phaser to all her casual clothes.
Hmmmm.. This would make a great slash fic. Like that scene from Mask of Zorro, but with a phaser instead of a sword.

Anyway, I thought the review was pretty good, but he rated the episode higher than I would have. Apart form the usual stupidity, such as beaming down all the command crew into a dangerous situation for no reason, this episode really hurts the Borg as an adversary. They were wasted in this episode, and it just served to make them more like the mundane cyberzombies they became in Voyager.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-24 10:05pm
by Big Orange
The Borg as cyberzombies was properly solidified in First Contact, although their pale skin, zoned out expressions, and shuffling gait they had in "Q Who" helped. In "Descent" they were individualised, almost pathetic cultists manipulated by Lore.

Isn't Lore's HQ the same place used by the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Zordon? :D

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-25 12:10am
by Ryushikaze
Yes.

It's exactly the same building, from the back.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-25 04:52pm
by tezunegari
Big Orange wrote:Isn't Lore's HQ the same place used by the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Zordon? :D
Ryushikaze wrote:Yes.

It's exactly the same building, from the back.
Yes.

It's exactly the same building, from the back.
It was also used in Star Trek 6 as a building at Camp Khitomer.

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-25 04:56pm
by Lord Revan
tezunegari wrote:
Big Orange wrote:Isn't Lore's HQ the same place used by the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Zordon? :D
Ryushikaze wrote:Yes.

It's exactly the same building, from the back.
Yes.

It's exactly the same building, from the back.
It was also used in Star Trek 6 as a building at Camp Khitomer.
IIRC that building gets use quite often when they need an "futuristic" building that's close to LA (there's that water prossesing plant (IIRC) that's get use alot too (as starfleet academy for example).

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-26 10:26am
by Jeremy
Anyone know the name of it?

Re: OTNGEG - Descent Part 2

Posted: 2010-06-26 10:16pm
by neoolong
Tis the Brandeis-Bardin Institute in Simi Valley.