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Another first season episode, now with magic thinking and a space pedophile. Or, whatever the equivalent is with teenage boys.

Also, http://sfdebris.blip.tv. I have no idea what the Blip TV channels are like or what they're about but apparently Chuck will be reposting the videos there, plus cleaning up and redoing some old ones (although everything's being left on the Youtube channel as well).

Hehehe I love his reviews. Can't get enough of them. And it's been a while since I saw the episode so I believe the name is accurate... Where No One Has Gone Before... actually going after Wesley. Dear God how desperate are these guys? Is that why he comes back in Nemesis? He got too old to stay in the magical space ship with free candy written on the side?

LOL, now this is an episode I did remember and I still love that some guy with the power of the mind!!! can force something to the ends of the universe. While the mumbo jumbo technobabble isn't bad in most parts, it is that feat that made this episode hilarious.

But I do thank Chuck for pointing out the man-boy love bits. That I never remembered

In Star Trek verse thought shapes everything. Ergo Trek characters can easily crush the Empire by willing it.

Great review as always.

Mayabird wrote: Another first season episode, now with magic thinking and a space pedophile. Or, whatever the equivalent is with teenage boys.

Space Roman. Because the ancient Romans and Greek were like that.

Mayabird wrote:Or, whatever the equivalent is with teenage boys.

Ephebophilia

That's the second time in a week I've run into/had a discussion, on that word.

Anyway I too like the matte painting effects used through out this episode. Too often with modern film and television my answer to "How did they do that" is swept away with the obvious "hurr durr compootars". I'm always impressed with what people were able to do with less back in the day. It's too bad this episode is crap and has really unsettling implications. Still Wesely is now an acting Ensign, so if you though he was annoying before, then you ain't seen nothing yet.

I always thought this would have been a great episode for them to break the fourth wall and reveal to the characters that they're fictional. After all, they live in a reality shaped by thought. All they needed was a cameo from Roddenberry and/or some of the writing staff and presto! We now have an in-universe explanation for every nonsensical mistake and continuity error ever to appear in Trek.

Heck, wouldn't it be great if they did that as a surprise twist for Stargate Universe? "Hey guys, we're going in search of God! And his name is ... Brad Wright?"

the fake Picard statue was great. I am still laughing.

While this episode was horrible. I really like the scene where Picard talks to his mother, its sweet, dreamlike, and a tad unsettling. That and if we had more scenes like Yar's flashing to her past we could have gotten a lot of insight on the characters. But that would have been the smart thing to do.

Could this stuff allow some outer Trek states to survive a hypothetical Empire invasion? If a large enough ship gets to the edges of the galaxy and uses the power of thought to create food and water etc and hide themselves from the Empire, the Empire can't will them out because they don't know they're there.

Carinthium wrote:Could this stuff allow some outer Trek states to survive a hypothetical Empire invasion? If a large enough ship gets to the edges of the galaxy and uses the power of thought to create food and water etc and hide themselves from the Empire, the Empire can't will them out because they don't know they're there.

No, because it would be a MacGuffin that is pretty much useless as human beings can't control their thoughts. See Yar and Worf.

Carinthium wrote:Could this stuff allow some outer Trek states to survive a hypothetical Empire invasion? If a large enough ship gets to the edges of the galaxy and uses the power of thought to create food and water etc and hide themselves from the Empire, the Empire can't will them out because they don't know they're there.

This episode did not take place at the edge of the galaxy, they left the Milky Way galaxy and shot past several others. If you care to take the episode at its word, the area of space in which "thought = reality" was located billions of light-years away.

If the Federation were to gain reliable access to such speeds, you wouldn't need to go to the land of make-believe to escape the Empire, you could just load up a bunch of ships and colonize other galaxies.

Revy wrote:I always thought this would have been a great episode for them to break the fourth wall and reveal to the characters that they're fictional. After all, they live in a reality shaped by thought. All they needed was a cameo from Roddenberry and/or some of the writing staff and presto! We now have an in-universe explanation for every nonsensical mistake and continuity error ever to appear in Trek.

Pretty sure the fourth episode of a brand new series is not the time to go all postmodern on the audience.