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OVEG: "Dark Frontier"

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Here's Chuck's review of "Dark Frontier", split into three parts:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

It hadn't shown up on YouTube like a lot of the Trek reviews on Blip have.
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Thats because CBS filed a DMCA notice against Chuck and Youtube complied. This is Chuck's 2nd strike and he doesn't intend there to be a third.
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And after watching the review, I can see Chuck is still mocking Paramount and CBS over their copyright stance.
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They won't load for me for some reason.
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Purple wrote:They won't load for me for some reason.
Click on the loading symbol and see what that does
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Dark Frontier Part One was one of my favorite Voyager Episodes, and fully deserves praise. Part Two I cannot entirely forgive, however, because its the point where the Borg stopped being a serious threat. When one shuttle flies into your capital and escapes unscathed with a high value prisoner despite being detected, you suck. A lot of people talk about how Voyager ruined the Borg. Well, this is the exact point where it happened, more than anywhere else. I'm perhaps a bit surprised the review didn't hammer it for that.

That said, I actually like the nanoprobe bomb idea. Its an interesting and frightening idea for a superweapon and I keep meaning to use it in a fan fic some time. :)

Edit: sorry, didn't notice the dates. I guess maybe being away for two weeks I lost track of which threads were current. Don't know if its technically necromancy, but if so, my apologies.
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This said, did chuck release anything new lately? The chuck does X threads seem to have dried up since this one came out.
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Chuck's been releasing and re-releasing things constantly. Just check his google channel Here Rather than checking for threads on SDN.
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I thought his youtube channel went defunct after the whole fiasco with youtube wanting to kill it out of nerd rage.
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He still posts episode announcements there to direct people to his Blip pages.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:Dark Frontier Part One was one of my favorite Voyager Episodes, and fully deserves praise. Part Two I cannot entirely forgive, however, because its the point where the Borg stopped being a serious threat. When one shuttle flies into your capital and escapes unscathed with a high value prisoner despite being detected, you suck. A lot of people talk about how Voyager ruined the Borg. Well, this is the exact point where it happened, more than anywhere else. I'm perhaps a bit surprised the review didn't hammer it for that.
The review did heavily criticise that segment of the episode, if I improved that segment, instead of Seven being rescued from the heart of the big ass Unicomplex (with its hundreds of interconnected space stations and hundreds of swarming cubes) she gets nabbed from the Queen's diamond shaped yacht during an intense space battle on a second assimilation operation that doesn't go as smoothly as the previous effortless Borg invasion of that race of no-name bumpy heads (the Borg have underestimated the power of the defence so the Queen's cube escorts get destroyed, leaving her own small ship open to boarding action).

None the less I still like "Dark Frontier"'s broad ambition and it has effects/production values that still look quite alright today (while some other contemporary mid to late 90s movies have CGI effects that suck now).
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