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New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 11:19am
by Iroscato
Reportedly, it's being overseen by Alex Kurtzman.


*Sigh*. Even so, here's the link. Not 100% confirmed yet but it's looking likely.

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek/3 ... evelopment
Den of Geek wrote: It looks like Star Trek may finally be returning to its natural home, the small screen. Plus: another film is due in 2019.

The Hollywood Reporter has broken the news that Alex Kurtzman - who co-wrote Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness with Roberto Orci - is developing a new TV series based on Trek. A formal announcement is reportedly imminent. Orci does not appear to be involved, at least as far as we know.

CBS is to be the home of the new series, and the hunt is now underway for a new writer to help steer the new Star Trek. The idea would be to launch the TV series at some point in 2016, which is the 50th anniversary year for the show.

This would also ride on the coattails of the new film, Star Trek Beyond, which is due in cinemas in July 2016.

It's unclear at this stage if the new TV show would be a cable show or on a streaming service.

No further details have been revealed thus far, although the article also notes that a new Star Trek film has been pencilled in for 2019 as well.

More as we hear it...

Read more: http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek/3 ... z3qLrpwkxo

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 02:12pm
by Mange
It has been confirmed over at StarTrek.com (it will premiere in January 2017).
http://www.startrek.com/article/new-sta ... nuary-2017

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 02:17pm
by Crazedwraith
I have mixed feelings. I guess it'll inevitably be linked to the new movies. And I don't particularly like the writing there. But a show would be more than just that guy and it might prove good after all.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 02:19pm
by The Romulan Republic
Well, the Abrams bashers will go nuts over the fact that its in the reboot universe, but I don't care as long as it has good writers and a good cast.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 02:59pm
by Captain Seafort
Crazedwraith wrote:I have mixed feelings. I guess it'll inevitably be linked to the new movies. And I don't particularly like the writing there. But a show would be more than just that guy and it might prove good after all.
The Romulan Republic wrote:Well, the Abrams bashers will go nuts over the fact that its in the reboot universe, but I don't care as long as it has good writers and a good cast.
Where have you got that from? The Startrek.com article itself explicitly states:
The new television series is not related to the upcoming feature film Star Trek Beyond which is scheduled to be distributed by Paramount Pictures in summer 2016.
Yes, there's a good chance it will be part of the Abramsverse, but that isn't confirmed yet, and it might continue on from the destruction of Romulus and Spock's trip into the past, or even ignore the events of the film altogether.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 03:02pm
by Crazedwraith
I only read the Op which had the bit about it writing on the coattails of Star Trek Beyond. *Shrug*

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 03:30pm
by DaveJB
Crazedwraith wrote:I only read the Op which had the bit about it writing on the coattails of Star Trek Beyond. *Shrug*
That's nothing really new; TNG only managed to get off the ground because of Star Trek IV being a big financial success.

In any case, there's nothing been said about Kurtzman also being the head writer, so I'll reserve judgement until we hear more about the actual creative staff on this new show.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 04:04pm
by Prannon
Kurtzman and Orci together were always something of an item in the films. I kind of associate the bad writing with the two of them together.

Which of them was more the hack? Anyone know for sure?

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 04:40pm
by Adam Reynolds
Prannon wrote:Kurtzman and Orci together were always something of an item in the films. I kind of associate the bad writing with the two of them together.

Which of them was more the hack? Anyone know for sure?
Almost everything they have done has been together. So there really is no way of telling.

Though I believe it was Orci who was the 9/11 conspiracy theorist behind Into Darkness. The false flag elements of that film were largely based on those of the conspiracy theories about 9/11. The biggest problem about conspiracy theories like this is that they miss the truth of such things. People in power are opportunistic and took advantage of the events of 9/11 for their own ends. They did not cause it, but they did benefit from it.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 04:41pm
by RogueIce
I'm just annoyed it's apparently going to be exclusive to this CBS All Access thing, which is $6/month. I'm not paying that just to watch this show.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 04:42pm
by Lone Browncoat
The Romulan Republic wrote:Well, the Abrams bashers will go nuts over the fact that its in the reboot universe, but I don't care as long as it has good writers and a good cast.
Well, I'm a Berman basher myself, but agree with your sentiment.
I like the new films portrayal [at least externally] of the Trek TOS ships.
and the Light Works {Tobias Richter} 'correction' of them ie "Prelude to Axanar".
http://www.thelightworks.com/

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 04:54pm
by DaveJB
Adam Reynolds wrote:Almost everything they have done has been together. So there really is no way of telling.
The fact that Orci was bumped from the director's seat on Star Trek Beyond and all the work he did on the screenplay scrapped might tell us something... though whether it's that Orci is a hack or Paramount are shameless money-grubbing commercialists (or both) is something still up for debate.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 05:06pm
by Lone Browncoat
{Forgot that if you wait too long the edit button disappears}

Would like to add aka TRR, that I hope they can attract the style of writing that initially drew me to Farscape and Firefly.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 05:50pm
by Lone Browncoat
OK Wong....this is getting tiring, since arthritis limits my typing speed, give us at least a couple of hours before you close it off.
I only came here because the Usenet newsgroup, where this started, has zero posts, indeed, from the port I use there are only two groups that are active; rec.arts.tv.uk.coronation-st with 90 new posts [and are a bit of a clique] and rec.arts.drwho with 280 new posts, ATM. The rest are either dead or have less than 10 or are unknown to post-2000 users.

.......Or TOS tradition of having real SF writers contribute/adapt to the new show, Matheson and Niven come to mind, The Slaver Weapon
being among my favourites of TAS (minus those crazy orientals and their use of the colour pink).
If what I read at The Hollywood Reporter is true, maybe they plan on giving us the "many ships, many crews and many stories"
that some fans desired a few [decades?] years ago? Thanks to the fact of GCI models vs having to build physical ones [and store them].
One can only speculate.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 06:47pm
by Lonestar
Lone Browncoat wrote:OK Wong....this is getting tiring, since arthritis limits my typing speed, give us at least a couple of hours before you close it off.
I only came here because the Usenet newsgroup, where this started, has zero posts, indeed, from the port I use there are only two groups that are active; rec.arts.tv.uk.coronation-st with 90 new posts [and are a bit of a clique] and rec.arts.drwho with 280 new posts, ATM. The rest are either dead or have less than 10 or are unknown to post-2000 users.
No one cares.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 07:50pm
by bilateralrope
Lone Browncoat wrote:OK Wong....this is getting tiring, since arthritis limits my typing speed, give us at least a couple of hours before you close it off.
You have all the time in the world to adjust your post before you hit the submit button. So if the edit window is too short for you, you need to spend more time proofreading your post before hitting submit.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 08:05pm
by Simon_Jester
Or, as I have occasionally found myself doing by accident, daisy-chaining edits: you can edit, then edit again two minutes later after another minor tweak, then again, and again.

On the subject of the TV series, I just hope that it circles back to the idea of Star Trek: exploration, the future as essentially bright and promising. Sure, it's dangerous out there, "not for the timid," but the dangers come from confronting and scouting the unknown, and many of them are the sort of thing you overcome by wisdom, understanding, and diplomacy, not with fists or phasers.

In my opinion, the most valid criticism of the new Star Trek movies* is that they're too oriented toward "shoot 'em up," conspiracies, warfare, Big Bad Space Battleships, and so on.

It sometimes feels like a... depressing sterility of our cultural imagination... that nowadays when we imagine the future we nearly always fill it with massive bloody conflicts, treachery, and so on. War after war after war, despite the fact that we in the developed world live in one of the most peaceful and prosperous eras our civilization has ever known.
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*(and for that matter the MMORPG game based on the franchise)

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 08:40pm
by Lone Browncoat
Simon_Jester wrote: On the subject of the TV series, I just hope that it circles back to the idea of Star Trek: exploration, the future as essentially bright and promising. Sure, it's dangerous out there, "not for the timid," but the dangers come from confronting and scouting the unknown, and many of them are the sort of thing you overcome by wisdom, understanding, and diplomacy, not with fists or phasers.

In my opinion, the most valid criticism of the new Star Trek movies* is that they're too oriented toward "shoot 'em up," conspiracies, warfare, Big Bad Space Battleships, and so on..
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*(and for that matter the MMORPG game based on the franchise)
True, exactly what I wanted to elaborate on, and I hope they get the writers that can do what the best of seasons 1&2 of TOS had to offer and what classic "Outer Limits" even accomplished, despite no budget for FX, even if they have to carry story arcs and leave the blowing stuff up to Star Wars!

Lonestar...I don't hear you!

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 08:42pm
by PREDATOR490
New series that is going to run along side the movies. Do not see that ending well.

If they go back to the old Star Trek - I fully expect it to be modernized beyond recognition
If they stick with the NuTrek - It is going to be bogged down so heavily by baggage that it will be screwed. Unlikely to involve the Enterprise either.

The added problem with NuTrek being way more action focused AND coming out on the back side of a new Star Wars revival is going to be even more of an issue. Trying to run a series in tandem with the movies does not bode well from previous attempts.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 09:24pm
by biostem
I want to see a Star Trek series that is smart, witty, and with an emphasis on exploration. However, I do not want the show to run into a new alien race each week, only to forget about them the next. Lessen the technobabble, and emphasize the high-adventure. Heck, it'd be interesting if the ship went out with a more bare-bones crew, with a secondary directive to take on new crew members from people thy encounter... sort of an exploration/ambassadorial mission...

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 09:49pm
by Joun_Lord
biostem wrote:with a secondary directive to take on new crew members from people thy encounter... sort of an exploration/ambassadorial mission...
No offense but that seems like a really bad idea. Such a thing might have worked in the age of sail when ships weren't all that complicated and crew-members pressed into service didn't need much training but for a starship taking on random dudes they encounter would get untrained most likely simpletons handling apocalyptic powers. Crew members who allegiances would be suspect and aren't even citizens of the nation the ships is from.

There's a good reason even Voyager, stranded on the other end of the galaxy with a dwindling crew and a unlimited supply of shuttles, never recruited natives beyond Neelix and Kes and neither of them had much in the way of important duties until they'd served years aboard.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 09:55pm
by The Romulan Republic
PREDATOR490 wrote:New series that is going to run along side the movies. Do not see that ending well.
Why not? Its been done before. Pretty much consistently for about 20 years.

And this is the era of the big interconnected franchise. Marvel has risen to glory with it, and DC and Star Wars are quickly following Marvel's lead.
If they go back to the old Star Trek - I fully expect it to be modernized beyond recognition
Eh... TNG/DS9/Voyager era isn't that dated, and things do change with time. I imagine it might look a lot like Star Trek Online in terms of setting and theme.
If they stick with the NuTrek - It is going to be bogged down so heavily by baggage that it will be screwed. Unlikely to involve the Enterprise either.
What baggage? Having to maintain continuity with the films? That's nothing new. Being a prequel? Except its not, really. Its a remake/alternate reality. Its success or failure will depend, in part, how how willing it is to embrace change to the original timeline. The first Abrams film did okay in this regard. Into Darkness... not so much.

As to the Enterprise... do I expect it to be the focus of the show? No. I doubt they could afford someone as big as, say, Zoe Saldana full time on a TV show, even presuming they were interested. And I wouldn't want it to be the Enterprise. I'd like the series to expand the new timeline beyond the adventures of one ship.

That said, I'd be surprised if at least some of the Enterprise crew didn't guest star or at least have a cameo on occasion.
The added problem with NuTrek being way more action focused AND coming out on the back side of a new Star Wars revival is going to be even more of an issue.
Perhaps, especially since they're both projects in which Abrams had major involvement. However, I would note that action-oriented sci-fi is hardly limited to these two franchises, and that if Marvel and DC can run major superhero franchises side by side, Star Trek and Star Wars ought to be able to run major space opera franchises side by side.

Though I do think they need to expand the new Star Trek setting, as I said above, to further distinguish it.
Trying to run a series in tandem with the movies does not bode well from previous attempts.
Um... what? TNG and the TOS films running side by side? You could make an argument that that was the Golden Age of Star Trek.

Frankly, I just see another fan with a grudge engaging in knee-jerk dismissal of something for which we don't have a tease yet.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 10:09pm
by trekky0623
Call me less than enthused to hear that Kurtzman is the guy leading this project. That and trying to push CBS's subscription service through exclusivity signals to me that CBS doesn't really care about Star Trek; they're just using it to test their streaming service.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 10:16pm
by The Romulan Republic
Kurtzman wouldn't be my top choice either, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Re: New Trek TV series in development.

Posted: 2015-11-02 10:17pm
by The Romulan Republic
Lone Browncoat wrote:{Forgot that if you wait too long the edit button disappears}

Would like to add aka TRR, that I hope they can attract the style of writing that initially drew me to Farscape and Firefly.
Well, Firefly is basically the best in terms of space adventure writing on television. I think that, sadly, that's setting the bar unrealistically high.