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Star Trek Armada: 2

Posted: 2003-04-23 07:55pm
by Superman
I am posting this here in this section, even though it is a game, because of our recent conversations about the pussification of the Borg. Anyone play this game? The Borg in this game are downright pathetic but I think they indeed reflect the Voyager Borg. Is this game cannon? Probably not...

Re: Star Trek Armada: 2

Posted: 2003-04-23 07:59pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Superman wrote:I am posting this here in this section, even though it is a game, because of our recent conversations about the pussification of the Borg. Anyone play this game? The Borg in this game are downright pathetic but I think they indeed reflect the Voyager Borg. Is this game cannon? Probably not...
Create a Fusion Cube, and then say that. :D

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:05pm
by Superman
Ok, they have one cube that is powerful. The rest of the ships are lame. And why are they using the "Hugh/Lore" Borg ship? That thing is not part of the collective!

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:07pm
by Ajaz50
The game sucks. With everything, its not cannon. And it doesn't have romulons for Single Player. WhyTF did activision give the lisince to a diffrent company?

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:15pm
by Superman
You can use the rommies in the regular multi player game.

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:24pm
by Ajaz50
Yea but its so much more fun w/ single player. the game sucks either way. Every race was weekened incredably. Its an ST game with the Huge Fleet Dinamics comparable to that of the SW universe. Its like the developeres never saw a show. The Federation (and others) poweres lie on single ships with huge ammounts of power. If you want to play a good ST game, try Star Trek: Birth of the Federation.

Intrestingly enouph the orrigonal ST:Armada was baised arround the same ideas and sets of rules as the ST CCG (Collectable Card Game). Unfortunotly they didn't stick to it making the sequal

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:29pm
by Superman
I have BOTF and I like it. My only complaint about it is that there is too much repetitive micro management.

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:38pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
2 was pathetic and shitty. Especially 8472.

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:00pm
by Superman
8472 does not even count, in my view. They are simply another Voyager perversion.

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:19pm
by Ajaz50
I thought they were prety cool looking. WTF was up with that liquid space shit though?

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:42pm
by Sidious
Hated Armada 1 and 2.

BOTF I liked a lot. Until you get to turn 150+ and the game takes literally 3 minutes to calculate on my P3 600. Havent played it on my P4 2gig yet though.

But I think the most accurate trek game (ship wise) would have to be SFC3. Seems to be closest to what we've seen on the show. Although the borg are complete pussies in SF3 too :roll:

Unless you download a mod. Theres a TNG mod that supposedly brings the game more in line with whats seen on TNG and DS9. Makes the borg uberifed I've heard too. Have yet to dl it though.

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:46pm
by Ajaz50
With ship micanics SC3 is most acurite but when it comes to actually driving the ship I think ST Brige commander gives the best idea

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:26am
by Embracer Of Darkness
:( :( :(

I lost my copy of Birth Of The Federation ages ago and now am a mere shell of a man.

Posted: 2003-04-24 11:48am
by Col. Crackpot
none of those come close to the shittyness of Deep Space Nine: Dominion Wars. whata fucking letdown.

Posted: 2003-04-24 12:13pm
by Kamakazie Sith
Col. Crackpot wrote:none of those come close to the shittyness of Deep Space Nine: Dominion Wars. whata fucking letdown.
I second that.....

Re: Star Trek Armada: 2

Posted: 2003-04-24 12:43pm
by Death from the Sea
Superman wrote:I am posting this here in this section, even though it is a game, because of our recent conversations about the pussification of the Borg. Anyone play this game? The Borg in this game are downright pathetic but I think they indeed reflect the Voyager Borg. Is this game cannon? Probably not...
Well the reason the Borg are pussified in the game is because you can't have this uber-race that is undefeatable and make the game fun. It is called "balance".

The first Armada was much better.

Posted: 2003-04-24 01:12pm
by Dark Primus
Armada 2 was such crap. Playing the Federation against the Borg, shit the Borg were totally defenceless. Isn't suppose to be the opposite? :roll:

Posted: 2003-04-25 12:44am
by Jason von Evil
I always thought the three new Feddie ships in Armada 2 were pretty cool. Venture, Iwo Jima and Aegian classes. While all the races sucked, the Federation was pretty good. I never finished the last Borg mission, because the damn god mode only granted invunerablity to the Borg ships and not the Feddie ships that were working with them. Also, I don't think you had the power to warp while in fluidic space and you had to somehow protect different conduits. :roll:

Posted: 2003-04-25 09:21am
by seanrobertson
Superman wrote:Ok, they have one cube that is powerful. The rest of the ships are lame. And why are they using the "Hugh/Lore" Borg ship? That thing is not part of the collective!
Actually, it is.

And as others have said, any videogame portraying something like the Borg vs. Federation is going to dull them down. Yes, even moreso than they were "weakened" in VGR (which, IMO, is a kind of urban myth anyway).

I'm probably one of the few who liked Armada 2 a little bit; the first, IMO, was far, far better, one of my favorites. It's too bad pt. 2 couldn't live up to the first.