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Trek XI

Posted: 2003-04-29 07:33am
by Hades
Being as its unlikly they will keep the next movie as a Next gen one (due to the failing at the box office this time around) what do you think will make a good next movie.

I Personlly belive a mix next gen/DS9 movie would be good. focusing on the DS9 storyline.
Basically the film would be about The Prophets Vs the pah Wraiths. All the DS9 crew would get called back from their various locations to help as well as the Enterpirse E getting called to the scene.

Im a bit shaky on knowlage on who now controls DS9, the federation or Bajor??? either way the dramatic opening sequence would involve something emerging from the wormhole and attacking DS9 some sort of ship charged with an energy (which will later discover is an escaped Par Wraith) The Par wraiths have somehow discoverd a way to infuse their essence with a ship.

Enter Enterprise- E. Who after a heated battle and much damage manage to defeate the one ship. But the Pah Wraith essence suvives even though the ship dosnt and escapes

After all this, down on teh Bajoran surface a glowing light starts and Ben sisko appears. He quickly gets himself transport to DS9 and in a confrence with Picard tells him of the Pah Wraith threat and that he is here to help. He also requests the resembling of his crew.

..... iv run out of time
But stay tuned for the next exsiting instalment of Trak XI (hades version) :lol:

also of course feel free to put your own ideas for the next movie

Re: Trek XI

Posted: 2003-04-29 10:19am
by Wrath
The Prophets Vs the pah Wraiths thing would make a crap bases for a movie imo , they where a major storyline expored and exploted throughout the DS9 run and as such we already know a lot about them so your not bringing anything new to the movie, it would just basically be an extended DS9 ep.

there are loads of open story line from all the series which can be explored in the next movie. much like WOK did and I would hope the next movie they'll go back to basics and chose to explore atleast one of them.

Posted: 2003-04-29 10:22am
by Stormbringer
I honestly hope they don't do any new movies for a while. They haven't addressed the problems that have made Insurrection and Nemesis such dismal failures. The problem isn't the story but the people telling it. Until those are fixed any future Trek movies are likely to be 2 hr episodes (if you're feeling like being charitable).

Re: Trek XI

Posted: 2003-04-29 10:26am
by Hades
Wrath wrote:The Prophets Vs the pah Wraiths thing would make a crap bases for a movie imo , they where a major storyline expored and exploted throughout the DS9 run and as such we already know a lot about them so your not bringing anything new to the movie, it would just basically be an extended DS9 ep.

there are loads of open story line from all the series which can be explored in the next movie. much like WOK did and I would hope the next movie they'll go back to basics and chose to explore atleast one of them.
But that IS an open story. We dont know THAT much about them yet, it has lose ends with what happend to Ben Sisko (saying he will come back) and Dukat. It was a brilliant story arc in the series that could be expanded on and made better for a movie while also giving a gateway from the Next Gen crew movies to DS9 movies

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:12pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
No offence, but your idea sounds stupid.

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:15pm
by Alyeska
I would watch a DS9 movie only if Rondald D. Moore was in charge and B&B were kept out.

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:18pm
by Hades
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No offence, but your idea sounds stupid.
As oposed to the stupid idea for a nemisis alternative someone sugested in another thread?

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:20pm
by Hades
obviously it needs tweaking.... ill admit that
anyway. the whole point of the thread is for other poeple to come up with plot ideas aswell.

wheres yours?

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:39pm
by Col. Crackpot
Star Trek: Federation's End

a civil war rips apart the federation as civilian and starfleet alike rise up and overthrow the vile clutches of the Marxist Federation government. Vulcan is destroyed. billions die. other regional powers stake out claims on the federation frontier......

...janeyway is stripped of rank and forced to film ferengi holoporn to survive...

Posted: 2003-04-29 12:45pm
by Alyeska
Hades wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No offence, but your idea sounds stupid.
As oposed to the stupid idea for a nemisis alternative someone sugested in another thread?
Ahem, that was my idea, and this is my forum. Enough with the insults.

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:02pm
by Jason von Evil
Col. Crackpot wrote:Star Trek: Federation's End

a civil war rips apart the federation as civilian and starfleet alike rise up and overthrow the vile clutches of the Marxist Federation government. Vulcan is destroyed. billions die. other regional powers stake out claims on the federation frontier......

...janeyway is stripped of rank and forced to film ferengi holoporn to survive...
What did the Ferengi ever do to deserve that? :shock:

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:06pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Hades wrote:obviously it needs tweaking.... ill admit that
anyway. the whole point of the thread is for other poeple to come up with plot ideas aswell.

wheres yours?
Since when was it stipulated that I had to submit a plot idea to be allowed to comment?

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:36pm
by Hades
Alyeska wrote:
Hades wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:No offence, but your idea sounds stupid.
As oposed to the stupid idea for a nemisis alternative someone sugested in another thread?
Ahem, that was my idea, and this is my forum. Enough with the insults.
Sorry, wasn't personal. He didnt like my idea, i didn't like yours. evreyones entitled to their opinion

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:43pm
by Alyeska
Hades wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Hades wrote: As oposed to the stupid idea for a nemisis alternative someone sugested in another thread?
Ahem, that was my idea, and this is my forum. Enough with the insults.
Sorry, wasn't personal. He didnt like my idea, i didn't like yours. evreyones entitled to their opinion
Your opinions have beem comming from way out in right field and people are a little anoyed about your blind defense of Nemesis and stauch resistance to any change in the movie. You might want to step back a little and examine your own behaivor.

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:46pm
by Hades
Alyeska wrote:
Hades wrote:
Alyeska wrote: Ahem, that was my idea, and this is my forum. Enough with the insults.
Sorry, wasn't personal. He didnt like my idea, i didn't like yours. evreyones entitled to their opinion
Your opinions have beem comming from way out in right field and people are a little anoyed about your blind defense of Nemesis and stauch resistance to any change in the movie. You might want to step back a little and examine your own behaivor.
Im not alowed to have diffrent opinions?
I respect your right to think nemasis is crap but i happen to like it. Im not gonna not like it just because you lot do.
what kind of person would that make me?? ...... a sheep!

Posted: 2003-04-29 01:48pm
by Col. Crackpot
Aya wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote: ...janeyway is stripped of rank and forced to film ferengi holoporn to survive...
What did the Ferengi ever do to deserve that? :shock:
just making sure your paying attention :wink:

Posted: 2003-04-29 02:28pm
by Burak Gazan
Please, please anything, but NO MORE JANEWAY!! :evil:

Re: Trek XI

Posted: 2003-04-29 03:08pm
by Wrath
Hades wrote: But that IS an open story. We dont know THAT much about them yet, it has lose ends with what happend to Ben Sisko (saying he will come back) and Dukat. It was a brilliant story arc in the series that could be expanded on and made better for a movie while also giving a gateway from the Next Gen crew movies to DS9 movies
its an open story yes, but its also a story which we know a great deal about and would be rather dull.

to me i'd taken it to the B5 TV movies, could extensions of the show which continue to tell the story but being nothing new to the show. there should be something from the series no doubt but they shouldn't just continue to tell the same story over and over, and because to be frank I felt the last 2 seasons of DS9 where rather dull anyway.

there are 100s of open storylines which they can continue on, story we don't know all about, storys we all want to see. look at the movies so far none of they have had any of the walk ons which made the TV shows such huge sucess's , No Q argueable the greatest personallty in Star trek or any of the others...

Posted: 2003-04-29 04:12pm
by Lord Pounder
The Pa'Wraiths(sp?) and the Prophets fight has been settled. It was covered in the final episode of DS9 when the Sisko fought Dukat each being the eimisery(sp?) of the two powers. Dukat lost, Sisko raised up and the Bjorans joined Starfleet. Game over there is no more room and if Beavis and Butthead fuck over any more of the Trek i actually like i'll be forced to buy a high powered rifle and torture shoot the bastards.

Posted: 2003-04-29 04:29pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Gah, the whole Prophet plot was the worst part of DS9.

Posted: 2003-04-29 04:44pm
by Wrath
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Gah, the whole Prophet plot was the worst part of DS9.
I didn't like that, prefered it when sisko was try to pretend he wasn't a religous icon.

Posted: 2003-04-29 06:43pm
by Hades
Darth Pounder wrote:The Pa'Wraiths(sp?) and the Prophets fight has been settled. It was covered in the final episode of DS9 when the Sisko fought Dukat each being the eimisery(sp?) of the two powers. Dukat lost, Sisko raised up and the Bjorans joined Starfleet. Game over there is no more room .
On the contry. The pah wraiths wernt sestroyed. they are mearly imprisiond and we dont know what happend to Dukat after he fell into that pit Much like Sisko joined the Prophets he may have joined the Pah wraiths. And there is always the posibility of them escaping.

As for all aspects of the pah wraiths being coverd already this is as true as saying all aspects of Kahn or the borg had been coverd before the movies.
Surly its a new aspect they the Par'wraiths are a threat to more than the wormhole alians and individuals.
In this storyline they could comand whole fleets of these ships enfused with their essence and be a threat to the federation as a whole. That was never coverd in the series

Posted: 2003-04-29 07:00pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Pounder never said they were destroyed.

Posted: 2003-04-29 07:07pm
by Hades
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Pounder never said they were destroyed.
I know. i was explaining why the story wasnt completly settled

Posted: 2003-04-29 07:13pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
The episode made it clear that Sisko's last act as Emmissary was to seal the Pai-wraiths forever.