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"Don't worry, I won't hurt you."

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:07pm
by Stravo
Okay, anyone that has heard or seen the latest Enterprise commercial will recognize this as the tagline T'pol uses when she is about to rape someone when suffering from Pon'Far.

Putting aside the sheer stupidity of the plot device (Come on, can't Vulcans FUCKING COUNT and know when they're in danger of going into Pon'Far???)

Let's examine another horrible mutilation of Trek canon. It is clearly established that MALES suffer from Pon Far, mentioned in the FUCKING EPISODE THAT ESTABLISHED PON FAR. Reiterated several times including the movies (ST:III) B&B have raped continuity as I'm sure T'Pol will do to some fortunate Boobyprise crew member. :evil:

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:09pm
by Ghost Rider
Brain hurting...oi so is Enterprise non-canon, yet?

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:12pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Not to mention T'Pol openly talks about Pon'Far. Spock was SO uncomfortable and embarrased with Pon'Far he HIJACKED THE ENTERPRISE.

And so Star Trek continuity crumbles... :evil:

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:12pm
by Superman
If Enterprise is non canon, then Voyager better not be canon either! Not after what they did to the Borg. :kill: *Voyager*

Yeah, Trek is going further downhill than any of us would have ever thought possible.

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:14pm
by Admiral Johnason
Superman wrote:If Enterprise is non canon, then Voyager better not be canon either! Not after what they did to the Borg. :kill: *Voyager*

Yeah, Trek is going further downhill than any of us would have ever thought possible.
Please stop talking about a dead people.

And yes I agree with the main arguement whole heartly.

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:48pm
by TrailerParkJawa
I think they should really go for broke and have T'Pol be interested in Hoshi.
Id tune in for that, even if it is an obvious pander to male hormones.

Posted: 2003-05-13 06:53pm
by neoolong
TrailerParkJawa wrote:I think they should really go for broke and have T'Pol be interested in Hoshi.
Id tune in for that, even if it is an obvious pander to male hormones.
I would watch that. :twisted:

Posted: 2003-05-13 07:02pm
by Sokar
Even I , who's hate for Enterprise is damn near a living thing, would tune in to see T'Pol and Hoshi get freaky :D

Posted: 2003-05-13 07:26pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
If I want porn, I won't be watching science fiction. If I want to experience the level of enjoyment I get during Enterprise, I'll poke out my eyeballs and cut my balls off with a rusty knife.

Posted: 2003-05-13 07:30pm
by Anarchist Bunny
IIRC didn't they say that only male vulcans can get the Pon'Far in an earlier episope of Enterprise?

Hopefully they didn't try to fix it with out having to write a unique script(unlike the Find: Tuvok/Spock/Etc. Change to:T'Pol) by just giving T'Pol a weiner.(Children, the word of the day is: Hermaphrodite!)

Posted: 2003-05-14 12:32am
by Baron Mordo
anarchistbunny wrote:giving T'Pol a weiner.
The pictures I could show you, man.

Posted: 2003-05-14 02:47am
by Macross
Ghost Rider wrote:Brain hurting...oi so is Enterprise non-canon, yet?
The show has been non-canon since the day the first pictures of the Akiraprise appeared.

Posted: 2003-05-14 03:40am
by Gil Hamilton
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Not to mention T'Pol openly talks about Pon'Far. Spock was SO uncomfortable and embarrased with Pon'Far he HIJACKED THE ENTERPRISE.

And so Star Trek continuity crumbles... :evil:
Not to mention Tuvok, when he got it. He regarded it as a extremely taboo subject.

Posted: 2003-05-14 10:43am
by TheDarkling
Gil Hamilton wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Not to mention T'Pol openly talks about Pon'Far. Spock was SO uncomfortable and embarrased with Pon'Far he HIJACKED THE ENTERPRISE.

And so Star Trek continuity crumbles... :evil:
Not to mention Tuvok, when he got it. He regarded it as a extremely taboo subject.
Yeah well T'Pol considers it as such in the episode (she even says "we don't discuss it with others"), what episode was it where she was talking about Pon Far before (I remember it happening but not the episode), I suspect that episode was written by B&B but would like to confirm it.

Re: "Don't worry, I won't hurt you."

Posted: 2003-05-14 11:38am
by Peregrin Toker
Stravo wrote: It is clearly established that MALES suffer from Pon Far, mentioned in the FUCKING EPISODE THAT ESTABLISHED PON FAR. Reiterated several times including the movies (ST:III) B&B have raped continuity as I'm sure T'Pol will do to some fortunate Boobyprise crew member. :evil:
Couldn't T'Pol be a male Vulcan who went through a gender-change operation, and something went wrong??

Posted: 2003-05-14 02:43pm
by RedImperator
I'm telling you, the only way to redeem Enterprise is to put it on the Spice Channel and eliminate the entire crew except for T'Pol and Hoshi

Posted: 2003-05-14 03:41pm
by Darth Fanboy
You know though when a bunch of Vulcans hang out together their Pon Far tends to happen at about the same time.

Posted: 2003-05-14 05:33pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:If I want porn, I won't be watching science fiction. If I want to experience the level of enjoyment I get during Enterprise, I'll poke out my eyeballs and cut my balls off with a rusty knife.
So what's the chance of an NR rated Version of Phillip Jose Farmer or Robert Heinline's fiction comming down the pipe?

Posted: 2003-05-14 07:22pm
by Thirdfain
Spice channel presents:
Philip Jose Farmers' "The Lovers"

SWEET!

Posted: 2003-05-14 08:41pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
The entire collected works of Philip K. Dick. Now on Spice 2.

Posted: 2003-05-15 04:56am
by Joe Momma
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:The entire collected works of Philip K. Dick. Now on Spice 2.
Jesus, I'd buy cable just to see what the fights in "A Feast Unknown" looked like translated to the screen.

-- Joe Momma

Posted: 2003-05-15 06:52am
by The Yosemite Bear
Better yet Heinlines "Stranger in a Strangeland" sex and a shitload of pissed off fundies.

Posted: 2003-05-15 11:54am
by Luke Starkiller
TheDarkling wrote:Yeah well T'Pol considers it as such in the episode (she even says "we don't discuss it with others"), what episode was it where she was talking about Pon Far before (I remember it happening but not the episode), I suspect that episode was written by B&B but would like to confirm it.
That would be Fusion I believe.
Teleplay by Phyllis Strong and Mike Sussman
Story by Rick Berman & Brannon Braga

Posted: 2003-05-17 11:07pm
by Drooling Iguana
Superman wrote:If Enterprise is non canon, then Voyager better not be canon either! Not after what they did to the Borg. :kill: *Voyager*

Yeah, Trek is going further downhill than any of us would have ever thought possible.
The Borg were ruined in Best of Both Worlds and First Contact. Voyager just failed to fix them.

Posted: 2003-05-17 11:19pm
by Darksider
Drooling Iguana wrote:The Borg were ruined in Best of Both Worlds and First Contact
How did BOBW "ruin" the borg??? they were unstoppable, they tore through a starfleet armada like tissue paper and they were barely stopped before they assimilated earth.