Fed ships in Endgame

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-05-15 11:24pm

Finally, our local TV channel showed the last episode of Voyager. While the story seemed so-so, I was more interested in the ships that they cobbled together in the end. How many Fed ship classes were there? I only recognized the Defiant and Galaxy classes, any more?

Harry Kim's ship was a Sovereign class, right?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-05-15 11:41pm

There were Excelsior, Defiant, Galaxy, Nebula, Akira, Steamrunner, and Prometheus class ships in the few fleet scenes.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-16 02:45am

generator_g1 wrote: Harry Kim's ship was a Sovereign class, right?

I think it was a much smaller exploration vessel, same class as the Equinox if i'm not mistaken

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-16 02:46am

generator_g1 wrote: Harry Kim's ship was a Sovereign class, right?

I think it was a much smaller exploration vessel, same class as the Equinox if i'm not mistaken

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-05-16 01:16pm

It was a Nova class. Apparently at some point, they'll refit the ship and alter the hull abit.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-05-16 02:12pm

It was the USS Rhode Island and it looked exactly like a Nova class, however it had a hell of a lot more firepower than the Equinox. It faced off against 2 larger Klingon warships of an unknown class. IIRC The Nova class is an offshoot of the Defiant Pathfinder project. maybe the Rhode Island is a leftover testbed ship or something.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-05-16 05:29pm

Or they suped up their ships a bit, because of all the data and tech Voyager brought back.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-05-17 09:13am

Col. Crackpot wrote:It was the USS Rhode Island and it looked exactly like a Nova class, however it had a hell of a lot more firepower than the Equinox. It faced off against 2 larger Klingon warships of an unknown class. IIRC The Nova class is an offshoot of the Defiant Pathfinder project. maybe the Rhode Island is a leftover testbed ship or something.

Those two kligon ships looked a lot like a Neghvar. If I am correct than the Rhode Island can not be a Nova. During 2370s Neghvars were the one of the most powerful ships in the alpha quadrant. Given how the Rhode Island's phasers damaged those ships it could be a new class perhaps an upgraded Nova.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-05-17 02:32pm

This is a little off topic, but doesn't Gordi get a Galaxy later?

Lord Sander · Post by **Lord Sander** » 2003-05-17 10:23pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:This is a little off topic, but doesn't Gordi get a Galaxy later?

In an alternate timeline, yes. (I would speculate he will in the "real" one too).

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-05-18 12:36pm

What really bugs me is why are the Klingons and Federatinon ships constantly fires one beam all the time?

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-05-18 02:38pm

Dark Primus wrote:What really bugs me is why are the Klingons and Federatinon ships constantly fires one beam all the time?

dramatic punch

which is more pleasing....a full on fight where everything they can possibly fire is firing. How long would it last I wonder?....about several moments at most...

If they go the single phaser route...they can draw out any battle that happens..and probably also fire and rapid succession too

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2003-05-18 02:50pm

Here is an interesting idea...
Would a phaser strip, supplied with adequate power, be able to fire from every spot on the strip? A Phaser Wall.

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-05-18 03:11pm

Jeremy wrote:Here is an interesting idea...
Would a phaser strip, supplied with adequate power, be able to fire from every spot on the strip? A Phaser Wall.

Even teh Soverign couldn't fire everything it had at the same time...the power requirements would probably be through the roof...

besides...they've no fuses. One surge and pop goes the starship..

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2003-05-18 03:15pm

That's why I said with adequate power.

Also I have a theory, the consoles themselves act as fuses. Ya I guess that is wrong but it is funny... well at leas to me

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-05-18 03:19pm

Jeremy wrote:That's why I said with adequate power.

Also I have a theory, the consoles themselves act as fuses. Ya I guess that is wrong but it is funny... well at leas to me

I doubt there's any kind of ship they could ever design that could manage it (that isn't poorly armed anyway)

Perhaps a star base could if it rerouted everything it had available.

they need the consoles though to fly the bloody thing

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-05-18 04:42pm

Coaan wrote:
Jeremy wrote: they need the consoles though to fly the bloody thing

Then why do they line them all with C4??????

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-05-18 04:51pm

Darksider wrote:
Coaan wrote: they need the consoles though to fly the bloody thing
Then why do they line them all with C4??????

To match the giant christmas tree they have in engineering?

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-05-18 10:46pm

evilcat4000 wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:It was the USS Rhode Island and it looked exactly like a Nova class, however it had a hell of a lot more firepower than the Equinox. It faced off against 2 larger Klingon warships of an unknown class. IIRC The Nova class is an offshoot of the Defiant Pathfinder project. maybe the Rhode Island is a leftover testbed ship or something.
Those two kligon ships looked a lot like a Neghvar. If I am correct than the Rhode Island can not be a Nova. During 2370s Neghvars were the one of the most powerful ships in the alpha quadrant. Given how the Rhode Island's phasers damaged those ships it could be a new class perhaps an upgraded Nova.

Yeah, 2370s. That scene with the Rhode Island doesn't take place in the 2370s, hell, it doesn't even take place in the 2300s.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-05-19 12:55am

Alyeska wrote:There were Excelsior, Defiant, Galaxy, Nebula, Akira, Steamrunner, and Prometheus class ships in the few fleet scenes.

Was the Prometheus the one with the 4 nacelles?

HappyTarget · Post by **HappyTarget** » 2003-05-19 02:15am

Was the Prometheus the one with the 4 nacelles?

The (apparently) one and only.

We get 2 clear shots of the Prometheus, one when the Fed fleet is approaching the Borg portal near Sol, then again when the Fed feet is escorting Voyager back to Earth.

I've never heard of a Prometheus with less than 4 nacelles in joined configuration. And her lines are pretty hard to mistake for any other class even without her distinctive quad nacelle design.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2003-05-19 02:26am

Why does it have four anyways? Its not like it adds to the speed, and power generation is handled by the M/A-M Combustion Chamber.

Maybe redundancy?

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2003-05-19 03:21am

I'll cap some screen shots when I wake up later today.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-05-19 03:22am

Jeremy wrote:Why does it have four anyways? Its not like it adds to the speed, and power generation is handled by the M/A-M Combustion Chamber.

Maybe redundancy?

Something to do with geometry. The nacelles supposedly create the "field" which moves the ship, so their physical location is actually important.

That's the in-universe explanation, which sounds better than "the art design guys thought it would look cool".

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-05-19 03:35am

Jeremy wrote:Why does it have four anyways? Its not like it adds to the speed, and power generation is handled by the M/A-M Combustion Chamber.

Maybe redundancy?

Or because it splits into three independent ships and each has to have warp capability.

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