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TNG's "The High Ground"

Posted: 2003-05-23 10:17pm
by FaxModem1
Anyone find this episode quite good(except for the kid putting down his gun part, he actually would have just shot them). The episode almost seems like they are trying to warn us about our lacking of understanding. Or maybe I'm just wrapped up in my own little world. Any thoughts?

Posted: 2003-05-23 10:20pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Is this the terrorist episode?

I love the scene where Crusher gets kidnapped. Worf, Data and the security guards just wait for half a minute while the guy grabs her.

Posted: 2003-05-23 10:29pm
by FaxModem1
yeah, that's the one, also worf and Riker decide to duke it out with the terrorists instead of shooting them.

Posted: 2003-05-23 10:40pm
by Burak Gazan
Yeah, and any real Specops team would have burned said kid down in a nanosecond; not the best and brightest moment for Fed security anywhere in this one.

Posted: 2003-05-24 11:20am
by The Silence and I
Yes the terrorist theme was quite good, I liked the line about how strength is useless against terrorists. Although Fed. security is... well... Um, did I actually call it 'security'? (I mean come on, the bridge boarding scene was painful to watch, Data took about 30 seconds to get out of his chair!)

Posted: 2003-05-26 01:22pm
by Ronaldo
I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

Posted: 2003-05-26 01:26pm
by Darth Wong
Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism (no religious issues, no "holy city" dispute, no occupied territories where human rights are suspended, no forcibly inserted settlements in said territories, no disputes over water, no outside sources pouring in money and weapons).

The incident in this episode was just generic territorial (and possibly ethnic) separatism as far as I can tell.

Posted: 2003-05-26 03:11pm
by Ronaldo
Darth Wong wrote:
Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism (no religious issues, no "holy city" dispute, no occupied territories where human rights are suspended, no forcibly inserted settlements in said territories, no disputes over water, no outside sources pouring in money and weapons).

The incident in this episode was just generic territorial (and possibly ethnic) separatism as far as I can tell.
It's been awhile since I have since the episode, so you could be right on the general nature of the terrorism it presents.

Posted: 2003-05-26 03:29pm
by FaxModem1
Still I say it was a pretty good episode, even though i had its failings.

Posted: 2003-05-26 04:14pm
by Joe Momma
Darth Wong wrote:
Ronaldo wrote:I always figured that this episode was an allegory to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
I'd say it's an allegory for all terrorism. There was nothing in the episode that could be directly tied to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict apart from the generic concept of terrorism...
I've seen reviews comparing that episode to various other conflicts such as Ireland's, which reinforces the idea that it's a generic allegory, whether the writers intended it to be or not.

-- Joe Momma