Star Trek Encyclopedia

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » 2003-07-08 02:26pm

I was wondering if anyone had a copy of The Stak Trek Encyclopedia - A Reference Guide to the Future handy and could look up the warp scale towards the back of the book for the USS Enterprise D. It specifies warp one as the speed of light, and and new maximum speeds as well as giving travel times from one place to another. It also gives speeds in kilometers per hour and number of times the speed of light you are traveling. Any help would be appreciated - you can reply here or just pm me. Thanks

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-07-08 03:06pm

What do you need, out of it?

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2003-07-08 03:10pm

That's a tall order, but here goes:

SPEED---------KPH-------multiples of c---Earth to moon--Across Sol system
-----------------------------(300,000 KPS)----(400,000 Km)----(12 mil. KM)
Warp 1---------1 billion-----1----------------1.34 sec.---------11 hours
Warp 2---------11 billion----10--------------0.13 sec.---------1 hour
Warp 3---------42 billion----39--------------0.03 sec.---------17 minutes
Warp 4---------109 billion--102-------------0.01 sec.----------7 minutes
Warp 5---------229 billion--214-------------0.0063 sec.-------3 minutes
Warp 6---------421 billion--392-------------0.0034 sec.-------2 minutes
Warp 7---------703 billion--656-------------0.0021 sec.-------1 minute
Warp 8---------1.1 trillion--1,024-----------0.0013 sec.-------39 sec.
Warp 9---------1.62 trillion-1,516-----------0.00089 sec.-----26 sec.
Warp 9.2-------1.77 trillion-1,649-----------0.00082 sec.-----24 sec.
Warp 9.6-------2.05 trillion-1,909-----------0.00070 sec.-----20 sec.
Warp 9.9-------3.27 trillion-3,053-----------0.00044 sec.-----13 sec.
Warp 9.99------8.48 trillion-7,912----------0.00017 sec.------5 sec.
Warp 9.9999---214 trillion--199,516--------0.000007 sec.----0.2 sec.

The actual chart gives qute a bit more, but this was getting too big. I think you can figure out any distance you need, one sector is 20 light years, and the federation is 10,000 light years across.

spideycw · Post by **spideycw** » 2003-07-08 03:28pm

oops sorry i forgot to post the most important thing - i was looking for information on warp 9.9 to warp 9.999 but its already be covered. Thanks for the prompt response

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-07-08 04:52pm

Okay, now I have a question -- supposedly, Warp 10 = Infinite Speed, i.e. occupation of all points in the universe simultaneously.

So what's the highest Warp speed attainable before Warp 10, given that there are species whose drives can propel them lots faster than Federation warp drives, but Warp drives are theoretically capable of infinite speed? How many .9s does it take before Warp drive can outrun everything else out there without going infinite?

EDIT: What if they deliberately achieved Warp 10 and decided to simply select a point in the universe to reenter real space in? Instantaneous warp travel from any point in the universe to any point in the universe... coolness.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-07-08 07:02pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Okay, now I have a question -- supposedly, Warp 10 = Infinite Speed, i.e. occupation of all points in the universe simultaneously.

So what's the highest Warp speed attainable before Warp 10, given that there are species whose drives can propel them lots faster than Federation warp drives, but Warp drives are theoretically capable of infinite speed? How many .9s does it take before Warp drive can outrun everything else out there without going infinite?

EDIT: What if they deliberately achieved Warp 10 and decided to simply select a point in the universe to reenter real space in? Instantaneous warp travel from any point in the universe to any point in the universe... coolness.

You can have an infinite amount of decimal places until the next number. Eventually the Star Trek universe will have have to redefine the Warp scale when every ship is easily capable of some huge Warp 9.99999999... number. They might not be able to achieve the fabled Warp 10.

As for other FTL engines that also utilize warp, it could be the same as comparing a steam engine with a diesel engine. They use the same tracks but propel themselves along differently.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-07-08 07:07pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote: EDIT: What if they deliberately achieved Warp 10 and decided to simply select a point in the universe to reenter real space in? Instantaneous warp travel from any point in the universe to any point in the universe... coolness.

Yeah, but it makes you into a lizard.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-07-08 07:09pm

What about the Warp 13 in the last episode of TNG?

EDIT:Is it realistic or did the producers were wanking?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-07-08 07:10pm

Montcalm wrote:What about the Warp 13 in the last episode of TNG?

Either transwarp or (most likely) a new scale.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-07-08 07:21pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Montcalm wrote:What about the Warp 13 in the last episode of TNG?
Either transwarp or (most likely) a new scale.

Probably a new scale based on Warp 9.999 (fastest previously achieved) being relabeled Warp 10 and subsequent decimal places being labeled new warp factors.

Thus Warp 13 = Warp 9.999999 on the old TNG scale.

Yeah, but it makes you into a lizard.

So does staring at photos of Janet Reno without proper eye protection.

I'm guessing they'll have to find a way to compensate for that, probably by analyzing data from unmanned testbeds. (Which would be a new practice for Starfleet, I realize.)

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-07-08 08:47pm

FYI, the warp scale was changed between the first and second editions of the encyclopedia.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-07-08 09:07pm

Howedar wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote: EDIT: What if they deliberately achieved Warp 10 and decided to simply select a point in the universe to reenter real space in? Instantaneous warp travel from any point in the universe to any point in the universe... coolness.
Yeah, but it makes you into a lizard.

But the doctor figured out a treatment. They should have sent everyone back and then used it.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-07-08 11:14pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote: But the doctor figured out a treatment. They should have sent everyone back and then used it.

"Alright, now before we leave, has everyone had thier lizard innoculations?"

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-07-09 10:51am

Montcalm wrote:What about the Warp 13 in the last episode of TNG?

EDIT:Is it realistic or did the producers were wanking?

I always assumed it was Warp 9.9999999999999 or 9.9 etc.. continuing out to 13 decimal places. They just call it Warp 13 because it would be a pain in the ass to call all of the various increments of Warp 9.9 by their number.

Realisitcally it was a wanking thing from Q so whether it will ever be defined seems unlikely.

By the way, I would think it's likely that in Q's wankfest future that Warp 13 might not be the top end for Federation ships. It could be, but in TNG era they usually referred to a ship's maximum speed as "maximum warp". If they were to continue the naval tradition I suppose they could call it flank.

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-07-09 03:14pm

OR they went back to the TOS scale, since saying warp 9.999 would be too much of a pain in the ass.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-07-09 03:48pm

SolidSnake wrote:OR they went back to the TOS scale, since saying warp 9.999 would be too much of a pain in the ass.

It's possible that that's what the TOS scale always was -- Warp 9 + number of decimal places = factor over 10. Like this:

W9
W9.9 = W10
9.99 = 11
9.999 = 12
9.9999 = Warp 13